Can a homosexual be holy?

That’s the question that Episcopal bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori asks perhaps rhetorically. But then again, she truly may not know the answer.

Is that a hard question to answer biblically? In this short discourse, instead of providing answers from the Bible, the bishop only heaps on more doubt-raising questions. Doubt is always fueled by questions which do not value nor seek God’s truth. Its not sinful to question that which we do not understand, but are we willing to accept GOD’s answer when we encounter it?

Its particularly shameful that someone who is the head of a denomination would be so theologically shallow. Bishop Schori is no leader, she is a follower of those who elected her to office and thus she is bound to repeat the wayward desires of unholy religious people.

God isnt a dumb God, neither is His word so confusing that it takes multiple “scholarly” degrees to grasp its simple truths. Jesus said the gospel is preached to the poor(Luke 7:22b).  Yet arrogant apostates like Jefferts-Schori would have us think the gospel is only for those able to pay for an Oxford education with years studying the original greek texts.  

A habitual, unrepentant sinner cannot live a holy life neither is there any indication in scripture that such a thing is possible. The two, “sin” and “holiness” cannot co-exist simply because sin is the antithesis of everything God is.

The only way to cast doubt on the “black and white” of sin and holiness is to question and redefine its meaning.

h/t:Eric’s Corner

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16 thoughts on “Can a homosexual be holy?

  1. Wow! She has the gall to refer to context. I’d love to have that argument with her.

    Shame on them both for implying that Jonathan and David were gay lovers. If they make it to Heaven David will kick their %#$^@. 🙂

  2. Well it does say in the Bible, “That God sent his only begotten son,that whoesover belieth in him,shalt not perish but have everlasting life”

    BTW,Sorry for any typos,hurt my arm carrying a Marshall stack.

  3. She is pure evil and an anti christ….We need to pray for her salvation or her removal from that post…

    This is sickening!!

  4. Might I remind you that Jesus still defines sin as lack of love (Matthew 22:36-40). Fornication and adultery are unloving because each has a victim. What is unloving about a couple in a homosexual love relationships? Neither is victim, neither is unloved. Where is the hurt? Who is the victim being sinned against? These are not rhetorical questions. No Gospel writer nor prophet covers homosexuality because it is not a sin issue. (“Homosexual” was coined about 1865, so any translation using a form of that word is a lie that needs to be emended. In 1946 it premiered in an English Bible.) If God didn’t want men to have sex with other men, He would have said “Man shall not lie with man PERIOD That whole “…as with a woman” thing condemns straight men pretending to make it with a woman.

  5. mexjewel,
    A couple of quick responses to your points.

    1. Sin is a transgression of God’ s written will.
    2. You have redefined what love is then placed homosexuality as a norm of that “love”.
    3. The word “gay” and the term “sexual orientation” are even more recent that the word homosexual. Do you object to their use?
    4. Your snippet explanation God’s restrictions of homosexuality is lazy and insulting, given the mountain of readily available commentary on it.

  6. Good points, gcmwatch. Interestingly, God didn’t use a term that people might twist. He just described the behavior very clearly:

    Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

    Romans 1:26-27 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

    Pretty specific, if you ask me.

  7. “No Gospel writer nor prophet covers homosexuality because it is not a sin issue.”

    It wasn’t an issue in 1st century Judaism, because the death penalty was still in place for it.

    You will note that Jesus reiterated that marriage was just for a man and a woman.

    100% of the verses addressing homosexual behavior denounce it as sin in the strongest possible terms.

    100% of the verses referencing God’s ideal for marriage involve one man and one woman.

    100% of the verses referencing parenting involve moms and dads with unique roles (or at least a set of male and female parents guiding the children).

    0% of 31,173 Bible verses refer to homosexual behavior in a positive or even benign way or even hint at the acceptability of homosexual unions.

  8. Neil, I agree with that. These people try to outsmart God with fancy “scholarly studies”, but in doing so prove themselves to be educated fools.

    As you noted, God simply described the behavior thus, regardless if the act was consensual or non consensual, if this type sexual behavior was a part of it, it would still be sinful.

    Thats why I believe homosexuals have pulled out all the stops to get around, obliterate, disguise, conceal and outright deny this very simple spirital marking. The ACT will always be sinful no matter what the circumstances.

    The insistence that Bible writers werent cognizant of contemporary homosexual relationships is a moot issue.

  9. the argument about effeminate vs homosexual in 1 Corinthians 6 is flawed…effeminate is malakos in Greek……

    malakos

    1) soft, soft to the touch

    2) metaph. in a bad sense

    a) effeminate

    1) of a catamite

    2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man

    3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness

    4) of a male prostitute

  10. Now, that was eerie. This is the head of a denomination and that was the best she could come up with. There wasn’t any scripture given, only useless rhetoric and fluff. That was amazing. I swear, I am sitting here stunned.

  11. Do not be stunned. The first lie given by the devil was, “you shall not surely die”. His minister’s tell the same lie. There is nothing new under the sun.

    Peace

    BTW: Jesus said:

    Ex 20:6
    And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

    Dt 5:10
    And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

    Jn 14:15
    If ye love me, keep my commandments.

  12. It takes a woman priest wanna-be to bring us destruction. First Eve in the garden of Eden brought sin into the world, now Jefferts Schori puts a wrecking ball through her own church. I know a lifetime Episcopalean that is devestated by this. Sadly, the Lord is snuffing their candlestick. It’s not what any of us wanted, but look how it got that way.

  13. After listening to the video, I ask — Is this all she has to offer in defense of gay sex? Hmmm let’s go think about it she says…. as though no other bible scholar has carefully considered it. Listening to her we can conclude no translator got it right, and human culture defines morality rather than an almighty God. This is a really sick picture. There is a way that seems right unto a man but it is the way of death, and this head bishop leads the way. I cringe for the fold she leads.

  14. Going back to mexjewel1’s statements: Although I am record for disagreeing with some of the approaches of this blog, I cannot agree with mexjewel1. For one, just because the Gospel writer’s or prophets don’t explicitly address homosexuality (and I’m sure they do at least implicitly), doesn’t mean it is not a sin. This same thinking led the Jews of Jesus’ time to miss the point that hating was breaking the murder commandment, and lusting (of all varieties) was breaking the adultery commandment (see Matthew 5-6).

    Common sense is not nearly as common as we think, but as GCMW said, sin can be defined as transgression of the law, which is His Will and is expressed for example in His original plan to have Adam and Eve be fruitful and multiply.

    Homosexuality is not my peeve issue, and I like to make sure that gay lifestyle bashing does not drum up emotions that lead to gay skull bashing, but we all stand to use common sense and be honest with ourselves on the truth of will and commandments of Almighty God.

  15. mexjewel1,

    Your thinking is flawed. In Genesis we find the creation of Man and Woman as “good”. We also have the commandment that man should cleave unto his wife and become one. God created the wonderful differences between man and woman for the divine purpose of marriage and children. One only needs to look at the design of each of our organs and let common sense dictate their proper use. As for the victim issue that is also flawed. Two people mutually agreeing to engage in sin may not affect anyone else but it is still nonetheless sin. For example, If I commit adultery in my heart I surely did not hurt anyone else yet it is still sin.

    Kyle

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