Gay christian movement worshipping another christ

It is a jesus, but not The Jesus of the Bible. The false jesus comes with another spirit and another gospel other than that which the Bible clearly reveals.  Wholly committed in its devotion to this false christ, the movement’s low christological perspective keeps it beholden to a false god who conforms to their image rather than them conforming to his image.

One Bad Monkey, in his post [no longer available] “What Jesus said about homosexuality” intelligently lays out why the gay christian movement is fatally infected with a deficient christology.

“If the gay church is going to proclaim its Christian faith to any extent as a foundational component of its convictions, a better understanding by the gay church of who Jesus is and why He came would appear to be in order.  Otherwise, I’m afraid I’m not going to be convinced of anything by its claiming to know what Jesus did or didn’t say.”

Failure to understand the true nature of Christ, leads one to create a false mission for Christ. Such is the case with the usage of the gcm’s “Jesus said nothing” defense. As we have argued before.  It is pure spiritual thievery to “compartmentalize” Jesus. Jesus, in the gay christian thought, is but a singular operative, some sort of emancipated son, divorced from both God and the Word (logos). Gay christianity intentionally allows Jesus do, say and think what he wants to without regard to the rest of the Bible or the will of the Father. Of course, this tactical position serves to bolster their chief claim: silence equals consent. Scripture, in contrast to gcm claims, is clear about the unity of God, Christ and the entire logos. (1 John 5:7; John 17:21,22).

In the beginning was the Word (logos) and the Word (Christ) was with God and the Word (Christ) was God. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. –John 1:1,14

Thus, from a proper approach and application of just John 1 verses 1 and 14, we can sum up the gay christian movement’s use of the “Jesus silence defense” as:

1. A faulty concept of Christ leads to a
2. Deficient knowledge of Christ which leads to an
3. Inaccurate portrayal of Christ which results in
4. Erroneous teaching and lifestyle

OBM points out  three very obvious contrasting truths that, if the gay christian movement possesed a proper perspective of Christ, they would quickly abandon its fig leaf defense:

First,the gay church assumes the idea of a subject being unimportant just because it wasn’t mentioned by Jesus is foreign to the gospel writers themselves.  At no point did Matthew, Mark, Luke or John say their books should be elevated above the Torah or, for that matter, any writings yet to come.

Second, the gay church assumes the gospels are more comprehensive than they really are. Not only do the gospels have no more authority than the rest of scripture, they’re no more comprehensive, either.  That is, they don’t provide all we need to know by way of doctrine and practical instruction.

Third, the gay church presumes to know all of what Jesus said.  Yet the gospels don’t profess to be a complete account of Jesus’ life or teachings.  Whole sections of His early years are omitted; much of what he did and said remains unknown. ”

If the gay christian movement truly desired to accurately reflect the Jesus of the Bible, they would not just co-opt his teachings on love, but demonstrate his teachings of fidelity and obedience.

 
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19 thoughts on “Gay christian movement worshipping another christ

  1. “the usage of the gcm’s “Jesus said nothing” defense. ”

    I am not sure which is more disingenuous, this argument or the David and Jonathan were gay lovers argument. Both are ill-informed and just wishful thinking on their part.

  2. tt, youre right… both are disengenuous in their own way. The David-Jonathan however is pure religious fiction. So I guess that one gets the edge for me.

  3. The crux of the matter is quite simple. Ask the GCM folks the “purpose” of Christ death, burial, and resurrection and they run with their tales between their legs. You see, the GCM folks will debate all kinds of scripture even when it is a weak one. However, the one thing they will not touch is the very basic ideas that a: We are inherently evil b: The shed blood was for the remission of sins. It’s true. On many occasions I have asked this very simple question. What sins did Jesus die for? And amazingly I NEVER GET AN ANSWER. Why? Simple. They can not admit that God sent his only begotten Son to take away the sins of the world. They can’t admit that IS the quintessential reason. Once they admit that they then admit that they are sinners. Once you admit that you realize you need to repent. But, to repent means to not only acknowledge your sin but to turn away from it. You see this is the main problem within this movement. They create a Christ out of whole cloth who came here to “love” everybody. They create a Christ who’s sole purpose was to feed the poor and home the homeless out of “love”. They essentially create a Christ who is nothing more than a lonely do-gooder who “loves” everybody. It is a false Christ.

    Kyle

  4. Honestly, I don’t understand why people have to proclaim their choices, their thoughts, their perspective on things (and that IS what is at stake here) like they are the ONLY ones.

    Christians need to learn to be less critical of others who don’t believe exactly what they do in the very same way.

    Ask yourself a few questions about WHY you feel it is right to be critical of others?

    I think they’ll be a lot of sad and sorry Christians lining up at the gates of what they think is heaven only to find, if there is a god, that he shakes his head and says “You were never true to yourself, how could you possibly be true to me.”

    GCMW: Kim, are you a Christian? Have you accepted Jesus Christ as both savior and Lord? Do you believe that God’s word is the final authority in all matters? If you havent and don’t that probably explains why you “don’t understand”.

  5. The problem is that the gay christian movement (and other heresy driven groups) want Christianity on their own terms. Just wrote about this at my blog.

    Notice how the gcm’s “christ” eliminates the need for repentance of sin at the Cross of Christ! Why is that?

    “It is clearly offensive to the unregenerate mind.”

    Another lie that they preach is:

    “God is not angry about anyone’s sin.”

    What a lie from the pit of hell!

    Yet, this is what pseudo-Christian churches and their pastors embrace in order to preach another gospel of Jesus with the emphasis on “love alone.”

    How arrogant can one get? That one sentence negates the entire purpose of Christ’s suffering on the cross for our sins, his atoning death, and subsequent resurrection to life. How can they explain the purpose of the cross in their beliefs? They can’t! So, what do they do? They simply eliminate it from the conversation!

    The Cross of Christ offends man’s love of sin. Eliminate the necessity of the atonement and you’ve got an unoffensive form of pseudo-Christian beliefs.

    No wonder the apostle Paul exclaimed :

    1Cr 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

  6. Why are you so determined to be prosecutorial and uninclusive? Jesus shed his blood for our sins and as a result, I think that only He and the Lord God himself has the right to judge people.

    All we can do is live our lives being true to ourselves and doing what we feel is right, not wasting time yelling and screaming about people who “aren’t doing it right.” Jesus is a loving God and we should follow his example.

  7. Excellent truthful article. The following is a continuation of the truth.

    It is a lie that gay men and women can’t change their sexual orientation. Ex-gays are discriminated against in the movement because they expose this lie and deception. God did not create men and women to be attracted to a partner of the same sex. There is freedom for those who want to be free. Jesus said you will know the truth and the truth will set you free John 8:32

    I encourage you to check out the following websites to read of those who have been set free.

    http://exodus.to/content/blogcategory/20/149/

    http://pfox.org/downloads/voices.pdf

    A Pastor said that “Jesus loves you as you are, but loves you too much to let you stay that way”.

  8. Ok, I have decided to stop “casting pearls before swine” and give the whole thing a rest for now on the “daily” whatever. I was “afraid” to do this before, only because I did not want to sound like I was conceding to them. In the end I suppose that is not important. May Christ judge my efforts well in His return.

  9. Christopher, I’d have to agree with you on that. I think the purpose was served however, there is sufficient exchange to show just how dangerous this type of thinking can be to a Christian who toys with the idea of “affirmation” and ” inclusion” of sinful acts. Its postmodernism run amuck.

    Its also good to to allow our trust in the strength of the Word to be challenged by people like Ramses. We need to know for ourselves that what we believe can indeed stand up against the religious humanism lurking in the church today. After that, I think its time to leave the swine to their swine-ing.

    Great site btw, hide the word in your heart that you might not sin against Him.

  10. The “Jesus” of the Gay movement is the same false Jesus of the classic dispensationalism of Zane Hodges, Charles Ryrie and C.I. Scofield who provide Rick Brentlinger (author of Gay Christian 101) with his system of ethics.

    How so?

    They divide and separate the Lordship of Christ from His identity as Savior. Hence, in classic dispensationalism you can have Jesus as your Savior without submitting to Him as Lord. (see Zane Hodges’ book “Absolutely Free”).

    Brentlinger draws from their doctrine extensively so that he can teach his antinomianism and yet claim to be upholding an orthodox and evangelical view of Scripture.

    What is sad is that this system of doctrine has so infected evangelicalism that it has softened up the church to become ready for the inculcation of Gay Theology.

    While many Christians (such as John Mac Arthur) haven’t followed Zane Hodges, Charles Ryrie and C.I. Scofield’s antinomianism they insist on hanging on to the “secret rapture” myth made popular by the “Left Behind” science-fiction novels and movies.

    The result?

    A church that hates God’s moral law and is content to sit in the waiting room while culture and society go down the toilet thinking that if the world around them gets worse Jesus is somehow obligated to come “take them away” from it all.

    Well, I’ve got news for ya’ll.

    Jesus will remain at the right hand of the Father until all his enemies have been defeated. (Hebrews 1:13; 10:13). He has commanded us to covert the nations and make them disciples, teaching them to OBEY all that He taught. (Matthew 28:18-20) He also also given us this promise – as the kingdom of God goes forward it will trample the gates of hell for it cannot stand! [Matthew 16:18] This is why we are to pray, “Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”(Matthew 6:10) and NOT “Please take us away from here.” Jesus prayed to the Father, “I do NOT ask you to take them out of this world, but to keep them from the evil one.” (John 17:15)

    Jesus has given the church an eschatology of victory!

  11. Yes, they have so many false teachings. I know of Christians who elevate the “red letters” too much. They have special meaning, but Jesus inspired the black letters as well.

  12. @dragonmage, you said:

    ……All we can do is live our lives being true to ourselves and doing what we feel is right,………

    I am certain that the people in Noah’s day had the exact same sentiments as you:

    Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    Also, have you ever read Proverbs 14:11-13

    11The house of the wicked shall be overthrown: but the tabernacle of the upright shall flourish.

    12There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

    13Even in laughter the heart is sorrowful; and the end of that mirth is heaviness.

    Thus saith the LORD our God

    Peace

  13. I was brought up a Christian (Lutheran actually) and my entire extended family on both sides are Christian of some sort. I have no problems with the scriptures themselves. If you read my comment properly it was directed at some, not all, Christians who insist on forcing their view on others as truth. The scriptures don’t teach to become zealots so yes, I do understand how people can learn and grow within their Christian faith (it’s excellent for sure) however my point earlier was that to take the egocentric way and insist that you know better than others.

    Prove it. You know you can’t.

  14. error in my earlier reply “…that to take the egocentric way and insist that you know better than others is misguided and harmful”.

  15. The achilles heel for the GCM is the ex-gays.

    Ask a gay Christian about ex-gays and into denial they go. They deny that ex-gays exist or even have the right to a self-identity. Folks, this is not the love of Christ in action, rather it’s hostility toward people that made a tremendous and visible sacrifice to please our Lord and Savior. Whereas, with the gay Christian we see no change at all, just the same old bible-bashing excuses that reinterpret scriptures until they mean nothing at all.

    Ask a gay Christian to cuddle up with their ex-gay Christian brother or sister in spirual unity and watch them squirm out of it as fast as they can and go running.

  16. Jude 1:8 Is a scripture that leaves “gay Christians” running in circles.

    They claim “angel rape” for the “strange flesh.” Well Sodom indeed had a visit from angels but Gommorah and the surrounding cities were destroyed just the same. There wasn’t an angel found in any of them as the Lord said.

    We are told this is is an eternal example of the vengeance of hell fire. This means that those souls are still in hell even today.

    So when a “gay Christian” tells you that Christ eliminated the law, just point to Jude 1:8 where it says those souls are still in hell serving as an eternal example.

    I know this sounds harsh. The idea of an eternal hell sounds unloving, but there is no other place for those that chose their own way.

  17. to dragonm:

    It is not for us to

    ” …live our lives being true to ourselves and doing what we feel is right,…”

    We are to be true to The Lord and live according to his word– which includes contending for the faith.

    Is being true to ourselves and our feelings as you exhort us, simply giving in to our own selfish wanderings ?

    What do you mean “be true to ourselves” ?

    How does being true to ourselves and our feelings glorify God ?

  18. How can anyone, pastor, friend, blogger etc, claim to care for or love people if they deliberately preach a false gospel ?

    Isn’t it hate and bigotry to alter The Gospel in order to
    soothe and appease people ?

    Lies mixed with some gospel are still lies aren’t they ?

  19. SRF, great point about Jude and “strange flesh.” People miss the context of the Sodom & Gomorrah details. As Gen. 19:12 notes, God sent the angels to destroy the towns before the attempted rape of the angels occurred – “The outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”

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