Newsweek's Lisa Miller is a liar

newsweek Let’s just dispense with the preliminaries and tell it like it is. Charisma Magazine has the story.  Newsweek’s senior religion editor Lisa Miller gives new meaning to the term “media whore” by climbing up on her ivory tower of bigotry to lie and run cover for the religious homosexual movement.  In October, Miller  interviewed me for the Kirbyjon Caldwell article? It was hard for me to tell who she hated more: me or Caldwell.  This is  real face of the  American media, diseased with hate and anger because we refuse to change the truth of God’s word.

“We cannot look to the Bible as a marriage manual,” she claimed. “A mature view of scriptural authority requires us, as we have in the past, to move beyond literalism. The Bible was written for a world so unlike our own, it’s impossible to apply its rules, at face value, to ours.”

Clearly, this is “payback” for the defeat of Proposition 8. Miller’s lie is proof homosexual activists main goal is to discredit God’s word. But no matter how much the trot out their fake marriages and manufactured families, the Word of God will endure. Forever.

If you require more, read Dr. Rob Gagnon’s detailed, scholarly response Lisa Miller’s Newsweek cover lie. Dr. Gagnon, of the Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, is the country’s foremost biblical scholar with expertise in refuting religious error about homosexuality.

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41 thoughts on “Newsweek's Lisa Miller is a liar

  1. Lisa Miller wants to pick and choose what she will adhere to in the scriptures. I wonder if she feels you cannot take the 10 Commandments as literal; since they were written so long ago to a people so unlike us.

    Don’t get me wrong I do not beleive that all scripture should be taken literally. Where it is allegorical it should be applied as such. Lisa is of the same group of folk who want to say “Jesus never said anything about homosexuality”; if He did would that be taken literally? The moral law of GOd is clear. The boundaries for sexual intercorse is also clear. “From the beginning” man and woman. Jesus defined marriage clearly in scripture. He endorsed and fulfilled the Old Testament law. All of the scriptures define and endorse heterosexuality. HOmosexuality is NEVER mentioned positively in the Bible.
    Lisa Miller’s lie is damnable and blaspemous because she couches her lie in a veil of scripural accuracy and hermeneutics. She is a heretic and a blasphemer.
    I twill not make a difference in what the truth is. They can call same sex unions marraige but it will never change what the word of GOD says. “Heaven and earth shall pass away before one jot or tittle (love the King James version, smile) of the law pass until all is fulfilled.

    I am singing this hymn as I record the words. I hope those of you who also know it will join in the chorus. Praise the name of the LORD!

    “The Bible Stands like a rock undaunted mid the raging storms of time.
    Its pages burn with a light eternal and they glow with a light sublime
    The Bible stands though the hills may tumble
    It will firmly stand when the earth shall crumble
    I will place my feet on its firm foundation
    For the Bible stands”
    Amen

  2. To Jonathan: I know you dont like it when we call sin out here. But your progay bias is showing its backside.

    Look at the quote from Lisa Miller.

    My response is that she is a liar.

    If someone is lying, you call them a liar.

    See the following:

    Jesus: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44

  3. gcmwatch,

    After picking my mouth up off the floor when my copy of Newsweek arrived in the mail this week, I wondered how long it would take for you to call this out for what is is – pure fictitional tripe.

    Is the “David & Jonathon”/”Naomi & Ruth”/”Don’t eat shellfish because the bible forbids it” canard the only defense that the gay lobby uses to justify their damnable sins?

    C’mon, surely such a group of creative and progressive people could comeup with more than that

  4. I thought this “NewsLiars” title was so clever.

    I read the coverarticle last week and found it disappointing. It was lacking in depth and originality. She only mentioned the arguments culled from the bible that have spouted a thousand times over by supporters of this movement. I was annoyed that she has no biblical scholarship expertise–I’m not even sure she is Christian. Then what was surprising for a Newsweek article, is that there was no counterpoint or counter article presented. I was also surprised that she did not include any comments of biblical scholars who are opposed to this movement. Heavily unbalanced commentary here…just sad that a lot of christians and non-christians will be deceived by this piece written…

  5. Hi Rogers, it astonishing how completely shallow and need I say it IGNORANT these liberal media types can be. As you and ST mentioned, this article is nothing more than an rehashed screed of the gay christian movement. Some of it sounds literally word for word. This is the work of a Newsweek senior editor?? This looks like she went on gay christian sites and cut and paste their convoluted thinking without even a kindergarten level of scrutiny. We’ve seen this (and reported on it here) over and over again from so-called progay religious scholars.

    Thats why I called it a lie flat on its face. There’s no originality, nothing we havent already heard countless times before, nothing that hasnt been soundly debunked already. They ought to be ashamed to have even printed it.

    As I said, clearly it was payback for the Prop 8 loss. The media is livid that homosexuals didnt get their demands. They have have but sold their souls to change the minds of the vast majority of Americans who reject homosexuality as something sexually normal. This hachet job looks like its a desparate “by any means necessary” tactic.

    Thanks for posting.

  6. For a site that ‘claims’ to follow the Word of the Lord ONLY. You seemed to have found a way around it by conveniently using phrases that were coined outside of the Word of the Lord.

    GCMW: That’s “The Word of the Lord endures forever.” Get your lie straight, please.

    Your post says “Lisa Miller gives new meaning to the term ‘media whore.’ ”

    GCMW: That’s interesting, in another comment you argue against taking the bible literally. You should make up your mind about how words are to be interpreted.

    I searched the entire bible looking for that phrase and I could not find it anywhere…
    GCMW: Do a search for “wordpress blogs” and see if you can find that.

    BUT

    I did find this is Matthew 12:33-36 from the mouth of Jesus…remember Him?

    “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

    A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[a] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.

    But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

    GCMW: How strange… you didnt apply that to Lisa Miller’s lying, blasphemous screed. You defended it. I’d call that grossly hypocritical. No need to cite scripture, your words are evidence enough.

  7. God’s word shall FOREVER stand no matter what people say or write. People can disagree with it as much as they want too, but what God says will NEVER change. That’s just the way it is. So let her write and say whatever she wants too, it doesn’t change God’s mind about anything. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Pastor Foster,
    I am at all not surprised by this most recent attack of God’s Word. I believe and have been sounding the alarm at my own church for folks to wake up and stand up for Biblical Truth as this worldwide homosexual movement is one of the surest signs of the soon return of Our Lord and Savior.

    Last night I found this debate between Rev.David McIlveen, the minister of Sandown Road Free Presbyterian Church in Belfast, Northern Ireland and a self-confessed lesbian ‘Bishop’ attached to the Metropolitan Community Church denomination. The debate took place on a show called ‘World In Focus moderated by Pastor Yemi Balogun.
    The topic was ‘Is Homosexuality Compatible With Christianity.’

    The contribution to this debate by Rev.David McIlveen, who was Scripture-honoring and God-glorifying, was overwhelmingly endorsed by the vast majority of those who emailed or telephoned the program.

    It is definitely worth a listen. Here’s the link:
    http://www.takeheed.co.uk/thrv/gd.ram

  9. I agree with you Nan…the word of the Lord will endure forever. Emp: the word of the LORD. Not our literal interpretation of what we think the word means.

    I am a Christian and I actually agree with Lisa when she states that we have to move beyond literalism…

    The bible is open – ended and it has to be interpreted. It is not possible to simply do what the bible says. We must first make decisions about what it means at this time, in this place, for these people.

    For example, somebody has to decide what it meant to love your neighbor (How would you define neighbor? As the person who lives next door, only people you know? The whole world?), and somebody has to decide what it means to observe the Sabbath and what it means to keep the day holy (Who defines work? who defines rest? What if work to one person is rest to another? What does it mean to make a day holy? How do you know if you’ve kept something holy? How would you know if you hadn’t?). These are literal texts from the Word of God.

  10. I must read more about this Lisa Miller. A Christian with a brain and who isn’t a homophobe. What a rarity.

  11. I believe the Bible is God’s word from God’s heart. She doesn’t know God as he wants her to know him, for if she really knew him, she would accept his word for what it says. One proof that the Word was inspired by God is that if men wrote it on their own without his spirit leading them, the 10 Commandments would read more like, “Thou shalt” rather than “Thou shalt not.” We humans would have written as it suits “us” so that we can live as we want; perhaps we wouldn’t have even written the scriptures at all, but be a law unto ourselves; but because it “is” inspired, the world hates it and loves the dark rather than the light, because the deeds performed are evil (John 3:19). The authors wrote the books of the Bible “in spite of themselves.” In simple terms, they were merely taking dictation from their supervisor like a secretary, but on a more divine, supernatural scale. The whole experience of writing the scriptures was bigger than themselves, and I’m sure if they could, they would tell us that even today. When all the kingdoms of the world have toppled, the Word of God wll still be standing!

  12. I like what you said here “This is real face of the American media, diseased with hate and anger because we refuse to change the truth of God’s word.”

    This is why many view the secular media with contempt and are now using blogs as their source of information.

  13. @ Michaeal, thanks for the audio link. Sandown Presbyterian is doing an awesome job standing for the truth in Belfast. Its a shame we have to fight others who claim to be Christians (MCC), but if we dont they will attempt to devour the church.

    @SH, yes that what the real battle is over. Thats why we shouldnt be quick to defend people before we see what God’s Word says first. Long live righteous blogdom!

  14. TO gcmwatch:

    “The Word of the Lord endures forever.” Get your lie straight, please.”

    Ok. then let me put it to you this way. For a site that ‘claims’ to believe that the Word of the Lord endures forever. You seem to conveniently use phrases that are outside of that enduring Word. I guess that means that your words hold no weight…since it is outside of that word(clear enough for you?)

    “That’s interesting, in another comment you argue against taking the bible literally. You should make up your mind about how words are to be interpreted.”

    That is correct. I do argue against taking the bible literally, but that has NOTHING to do with you using words like “media whore”, and claiming throughout that you follow the Word of God only. Once again…I don’t find that phrase (media whore) in the Word. You need to make up your mind….Are you going to follow the Word or not?

    And as far as searching wordpress blogs for the words media whore. When did wordpress blogs become the Word??

    ” I’d call that grossly hypocritical. No need to cite scripture, your words are evidence enough.”

    CORRECTION: Those are the words of Jesus, not mine. and you may say that it’s grossly hypocritical, but that is your opinion. Just like calling miller a liar is your opinion…..

    GCMW: Paul, your attempts to run cover for Miller’s lie by raising a red herring issue is juvenile at best. Miller is a media whorewho has sold herself to promoting a gay church lie. A person with integrity would stand for truth not prostitute themselves out because they hate truth. If you agree with her lie, that makes you a co-liar.

  15. I was just waiting on you to play the Red Herring card. It’s your only defense

    GCMW: Well, its good you at least truthfully acknowledge that much. Since you dont want to admit Miller is a liar, then let the record reflect the obvious. Paul Im sure there are gay blogs which support lies like Miller’s where you will fit right in. My best suggestion is that your next comment on one of those.

  16. Miller’s lie is proof homosexual activists main goal is to discredit God’s word.

    Yep. They know the church is an enemy to their lies and must be discredited. And they know that government recognition of “same sex marriage” makes the church a natural enemy of the gov’t. We can’t very well be giving tax breaks to organizations that practice “bigotry,” “hate” and “discrimination,” can we?

    But no matter how much the trot out their fake marriages and manufactured families, the Word of God will endure. Forever.

    Amen to that!

  17. Alright people of God. If you haven’t gotten it, let me help you ‘get it.’ If you are not prepared to surrender your all at the shrine of homosexuality be prepared to be called brainless, bigoted, intolerant, homophobic, and unloving.

    Can you handle it? Yes we can!

    Hygiene is important, and even if I never read the Word of God, the very fact that this sexual practise involves intimate interaction with a body part responsible for faeces !?!?!?!

    That alone should send me running to the cross of Christ.

  18. uh ohhh…that sounds like something obama coined. “yes we can!” and you know obama is a picture of the anti-christ and he’s for homosexuals…so, I guess that makes you an obama jr…

    do you see how ridiculous what i just accused you of sounds? that’s exactly how your empty and vain arguments against folk that you don’t even know sounds.

    you can handle those who agree with you of course, because they’re following your destructive modern day Pharisaical yoke right into the devils pit (PRIDE & SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS). However, those of us who have our own mind and our own voice and those who follow hard after Jesus Christ and actually believe in loving people instead of calling them insulting names and being immature…, you don’t allow us to post here.

    Can you handle the meat of the word? Can you handle the fact that you might be wrong? Can you handle that you may not be as perfect as you think? can you handle the fact that you and your little blog-imps do not have a perfect view of God and the bible? Can you handle that?

    NOPE!

    GCMW: Ive grown exceptionally weary of your silliness. Either you discuss the merits of the issue (Miller’s lie) or I put you on ban. Your choice.

  19. Paul,

    2nd Peter 1:20-21 says “NO PROPHECY OF SCRIPTURE CAME BY THE PROPHET’S OWN INTERPRETATION. For prophecy never had it’s oigin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”

    No, all scripture isn’t to be taken literally. There is symbolism and allegory in the word of God. But there are a lot of scripture that is to be taken literally……like “don’t lay with man as you lay with a woman; it is an abomination.” That isn’t symbolism; that’s literal.

    Please stop making excuses for this woman who has no understanding of the word of God at best. Miller is playing her part in duping and deceiving the body of Christ in these last days in order to set up the apostate religion that’s already building and will be coming soon.

    There are many false teachers and false christians. If you are a christian, you should be praying for boldness to preach the uncompromising gospel of Jesus Christ to a lost world and standing for the truth of the word of God by “contending forthe faith that was once delivered to us.”

  20. GCM, I was wondering when you were going to put Paul on ban status. His rants were getting on my nerves. It is because their temple of love excuses all sin…even the intentional sins of so called Christians, that they can’t read nor see the truth. The fact of the matter is is that the truth is not in them nor do they have the indwelling Holy Spirit to lead them to that truth.

  21. “Either you discuss the merits of the issue (Miller’s lie) or I put you on ban. Your choice.”

    You would’ve been better off by saying, either i agree with you about Miller’s lie or you put me on ban. Those are my real choices.

    Now, don’t get me wrong, i don’t believe in same sex marriage, nor do i believe that homosexuality is right ( you don’t see that in any of my posts).The only thing I agreed with that Miller said was that as mature Christians, we do have to move beyond literalism (which you quoted her saying in your original post.). just because I agree with her on that point, doesn’t mean that I’m a gay supporter, or a co-liar or juvenile, or throwing red herrings, or strawmen or any other ludacris thing you may try to come up with because you have no other defense. it only means that I disagree with the way that you see it.

    Here is my take (AGAIN) on Miller’s ‘lie’: I do not think she is a liar, because I don’t have enough information on her to label her as such. I don’t know her from Eve…and I don’t know where she is in her walk with God, which leaves me with nothing but words she printed in newsweek to judge her by, and DL, you should know better than anyone, if folk were judging and labeling us (Christians) by our words only and if Matthew 12:34-36 was to be taken literal…then we’d all be headed to the pit in hell where we’re sure that all practicing homosexuals and those who print newsweek articles agreeing with homosexuals will go… so, in a nutshell….I disagree with you that Lisa Miller is a liar.

    So, in keeping with the merit of the issue, this is my take on it….if you choose to ban me after this, then I will surely know that this blog only for those who agree with you, which I need to know so that I won’t post here again. Oh and you should probably add that to your comment policy too if that is the case, it would really help.

    To james: You mentioned “their temple of love” and “they can’t read nor see the truth.” And “the truth is not in them nor do they have the indwelling Holy Spirit to lead them to that truth.”

    Can you replace those pronouns with nouns and tell me who ‘their’ ‘they’ and ‘them’ would be? And I ask you that because I don’t see at all how it related to what I said in my previous post. I talked about loving people in my post, but referred to nothing about any temple of love, and you don’t see the word ‘sin’ or me mention ‘excusing sin’ in any of my posts, so you came up with that entirely on your own. Further clarification would be helpful.

    And whomever the ‘their’ ‘they’ and ‘them’ are…you are in no position to say that there’s no truth or Holy Spirit in them. How would you know? By words on a blog? That’s a shallow analysis…don’t you think?

  22. I enjoy reading the GCM blog and also all the comments readers post. If not agreeing, it at least gets everyone talking and engaged in conversation, hopefully and prayerfull to an agreement with the Word of God, which will never change or go away, for it endures forever!

    GCMW: Thanks GNP22, what’s GCM Watch without a good passionate airing out every once and a while? 🙂 Debate (not a bad word) is part of getting to the truth which sometimes starts with stark disagreement. I love everyone despite my sharp words at times. As long as we want truth to be the final conclusion, Im all for the journey, whether nice and calm or spicy. Blessings!

  23. Take note how the major media outlets always pull out this kind of Anti christ propaganda at Christmas or Easter….Time Magazine and Newsweek are among the worse for this practice and consistently so…

    Lisa Miller is one of 2 things….a willful liar or ignorant….either is not good…

    Again, how can people misinterpret this?? This is clear in the bible…we are not talking about obscure issues here????

    What evil evil times we live in…..

    How I so feel like a stranger in a strange land!

    Blessings to all of you

    And may Christ open Ms. Miller’s heart and mind to his redeeming truth!

    Dev in Canada

  24. “…you have no other defense”

    Defense of what? You inserted a red herring argument and I called it for what it was. What’s there to “defend”?

    And finally you say that you dont agree with Miller’s mega lie (why it took you so long is a mystery), although your “moving beyond literalism” speech is still lacking. As someone already explained to you there are parts of the bible which should be taken literally and cannot be rendered differently. I dont see where Miller made this point or else I would be agreeing with her on that point.

    So, to sum no we dont need to move beyond literalism, we need to learn to rightly divide the word of truth.

  25. GCM Watch: Just following up with your response. Who would you say has the FINAL authority on whether one has rightly divided the Word ?

    You can have 3 different bible beleiving Christians look at the same passage of scripture and each person can get something completely different out of it depending on their vantage point, culture and/or background. who’s to say which of the 3 has rightly divided it??

    Le’ts take I Timothy 2:15 for example:

    But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

    Who decides what ‘being saved’ means? what about women who cannot conceive? will they not be saved? does this just apply to women? how is one to know if they’re continuing in faith, love and holiness? what is meant by propriety? How does this scripture apply to 2008? who decides if we take this literally or not?

    but…what you’ve tried to do here is see the Word of God ONE way and expect everybody else that comes here to look at it that exact same way that you see it and then call it TRUTH. says who? You? what about the other views and perspectives from fellow believers and Pastors?

    I’m not trying to be controversial, I really am trying to have this debate and just throw something out for you to think about.

    Jesus is the Reason. Merry Christmas.

  26. The Bible says a lot of things. Many public essays have been written and recited on some of the more extreme topics – like slavery (perfectly OK) and women’s rights (non-existent.) They were written sarcastically, to be sure (I hope.)

    The basic and only consideration is not “what the Bible says,” since it says a lot of things, but rather “what the speaker chooses to extract” from everything the Bible says, in order to “prove” his selfish point. We should not call these people “religious” zealots but rather “quasi-religious”, because they are motivated not by any love of God, but by their own self-interested intolerance and cruelty, and have organized to use the names of Religion and God as a front to cover their self-centered rampages. The Bible talks about “LOVE” in very favorable terms, in many places. Why not pick those references, instead of the Sodom & Gommorah story? The answer, of course, is that the anti-gay campaign is not really based on the Bible but rather on the personal bigotry of the campaigners. They use the Bible to try to support their prejudices – the only possible ghostly vapor of support – and it becomes a real case of taking the Lord’s name in vain, twisting Religion to suit their personal ends.

  27. Paul I have already delved into that in this post. If you read and you stil have questions, then ask away. Im not avoiding any answers, just that if its already been hashed out, then I rather not give another long answer on that.

  28. This is just another person with a poor intellect and has no study time in the word of God. it is a sad day when these people are able to spread their own form of hate speach as they call it on us. The people that want to hold to a right standard and good moral ethic. I love this site it really keeps me up with waht is going on. God Bless all who run this site.

  29. One means to interpet difficult passages (or otherwise) of scripture is to allow other portions of scripture to assist in understanding. As it relates to the issue of homosexuality or gay marriage there is nothing to assist an HONEST SEEKER to come to the conclusion that same sex marriage would be acceptable by the GOD revealed in scripture. The body of evidence against the postion is clear and abundant that the only marriage the CREATOR intended was between a man and a woman.
    Based on this fact Lisa Miller IS a liar whether she intended to be one or not. She deserves to be called a liar because she set herself as an expert in a national magazine noted for reporting news. Given the risk of folks salvation and the import of the forum in which she purported her lie the appellation is more than deserved.
    Merry Christmas to you also.

  30. Elder Jimmy, one should apply that on difficult passages. The problem is that the passages condemning homosexuality are not difficult at all. In every instance, the scripture is clear and convincing. The gcm have intentionally sown confusion which then gives the impression to the spiritually immature that it is a difficult issue.

  31. Yeah, I know and I agree. I mentioned the difficult passage and interpretation comment because of the difficult passage mentioned by Paul.

  32. The very title of your Blog is a lie. If you were honest, it would read “Anti-Gay Christian Movement..” But I have long since stopped expecting honesty from fundmentalist Christians. You blaspheme the spirit and teachings of Jesus.

    GCMW: We have publicly defined ourselves and stated our mission as “monitoring the gay christian movement”, thus the blog’s title is both honest and applicable. Your point seems to be based more on semantics. Yes, Roger we are “anti”-gay christian movement. It is a false and dangerous movement which we have painstakingly proven to be condemned in God’s Word, so we have no apologies to issue on that.

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  34. It is not hard to know what God is saying to us in His word. We have many examples in the Bible on what actions pleased God and what actions didn’t. So let’s not pretend that we don’t know what God expects from us on how we should live, love and behave, because everything that is happening now has been played out before. There is nothing new under the son. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man.

  35. Pastor Foster

    I found an excellent post in relation to the Newsweek article over at Pastor Eric Redmond’s blog “A Man From Issachar”

    sidebar: (Redmond was recently released from his pastoral duties in Maryland by his church because he preached sound doctrine as opposed to pimpish entertainment)

    Anyway, it’s a sober article about how the church must welcome homosexuals while helping them extracate themselves from the sinful lifestyle.

  36. Thanks ST, I will take time to read this. Bravo to Pastor Redmond. These days only a Godly character distinguishes the false teachers from those who belong to God.

  37. this should be a dead-comment, but i do want to say..didn't Jesus call certain ppl foos when it applied?

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