Cosmopolitan Church of Prayer to record with lesbian bishop

the-remix-coverThe Cosmopolitan Church of Prayer in Chicago is hosting lesbian bishop and traveling false prophetess Yvette Flunder for a  “gospel music” recording October 26th. If there’s one thing that’s good about the appearances of Yvette Flunder it is that she is helping to identify these closet homosexual churches. That helps people who are sincere about their walk with the Lord to avoid these houses of ill repute like a plague.

The church’s pastor, Charles G. Hayes aka “Father Hayes” has been a fixture in the gospel music industry since the early sixties.

A Chicago pastor  told GCM Watch, “Cosmopolitan is a church that has been around for years. The pastor is Charles Hayes, who has lived with a[nother] man for decades openly. Also, although its not necessarily taught, his church is based upon his choir and the choir is literally full of homosexuals, who in my estimation of things have no motivation or reason to want to repent. His church attracts (during musical events) some of the more prominent ‘christian’ homosexuals from the city, and the older ‘homosexual’ pastors in the city with similar congregations really respect him. His messages are very typical sometime borderline witchcraft.”

That’s exactly what all the church and choir profiles point to.  A religious organization based on sensationalist gospel music devoid of any true connection with Christ or his Word.  “The Cosmopolitan Church of Prayer Choir has recorded thirty albums and five single 45s over the past 40 years. Out of the thirty albums, one went GOLD (over 50,000 copies sold), and the others made the No. 1 spot on the charts around the world.”

As with much of what passes for “anointing” these days, we would do well to be reminded that “the gifts and calling of God are without repentance” (Romans 11:29). What that means is that what God has given humanity in the form of talent and ability is irrevocable i.e. it cannot be changed. It also means that although God is the giver of the gifts, it requires no relationship with God, neither is it an indicator of relationship with God.

What’s the danger? People who live on gifts and a “form of godliness” but never submit themselves to the Giver now, will be locked out of the possibility of relationship with him eternally.  We’re not left in the dark about the consequences of that either.

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7:21-23 NIV

You can add “sangin’ in your name” to that list too.

Is this something Jesus worked out?

The church is mostly known for its gospel song “Jesus can work it out”. You can see Hayes and his choir demonstrating the latest churchified club moves as they sing their signature song. Sorry its so long. Watch as much as you can stomach.

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41 thoughts on “Cosmopolitan Church of Prayer to record with lesbian bishop

  1. “is irrevocable i.e. it cannot be changed. It also means that although God is the giver of the gifts, it requires no relationship with God, neither is it an indicator of relationship with God.” is a key element concerning anyone involved in Gospel music. From my experience, the average “church” music “ministry” contains large numbers of unregenerated people with whom talent is used to mask the ugliness of their sins and behavior as a whole. I have not sung alongside anyone that were suspected or comfirmed homosexuals during my church days, but the prescence of other unchecked sins (jealousy, back-biting, gossip, envy, etc.) are very much gateways for such things to come about. I believe this to be the case with many of these groups across the nation right now. The biblical ignorance of the audiences and the unwillingness of the “church leaders” to place integrity over talent continually perpetuate sin to the point that it seems unstoppable among the broader “christian” community. Unless this changes, the amount of spiritual carnage will be astronomical.

    I have not heard of this group, but I am very familiar with the “Jesus Can Work It Out” track from my early youth. Thinking in retrospect, this track is sorely lacking any biblical substance or context, thus in essence, laying the foundation for the apostate music that is out today. All of this is part of an intricate network of growing apostasy among many, seeking ignorant adherents with which to further perpetuate the sin until death becomes of all who participate in it.

  2. Very, very true Ncatina. The spirit of this age has no root in Christ. Its sensual, selfish and evil.

    Churches like CHOP are representatives of the harlot church system.

    The Lord’s voice is as clear and urgent today as it was when he spoke it in Revelation.

    Rev 18:4-5 NIV) Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.

  3. Hmm…Now that’s a thought.
    It would actually be a good idea if Yvette Flunders and her partner in apostasy Carlton Pearson were to visit about 50-100 churches per year. That way they’d help expose the compromisers and false churches in our midst.

    Little by little, the light is being shined into the dark places.
    Even so, let it happen, Lord… and let the wolves among the sheep be exposed!

  4. The day is gonna come when “Jesus will work in out!”

    Matt 13
    24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

    25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

    26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

    27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

    28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

    29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

    30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    Verse 25 leaps out to me “while men slept,his enemy sowed tares”. May we continue to be aware of the enemies tricks! be sober and vigilant the bible says.

  5. Nothing new here. Anyone truly familiar with Charles Hayes and Cosmopolitan Church of Prayer, and its music legacy is aware of gay influence in the church. It’s certainly not the only church with prominently gay music departments. As I have stated previously on this site, if the tenor section and music staff is openly infected with the gay bug then the pulpit is complicit. Either they are looking the other way or participating on the down-low. This is true in COGIC, Baptist, Methodist, PAW and every other denomination.

  6. Andre, some are not aware. We know perhaps in general, but sometimes you need specifics to warn people sufficiently.

    In fact I had never heard of the homosexual issue being so prevalent in him and his church. I had heard of the church and him, but not this.

    I dont think Im alone in that.

  7. Just a “small” correction. “Gold” status for a recording is 500,000 copies (one-half million copies); not 50,000.

    I’ve heard of the Chicago church and also the choir, and while I really liked their music on radio, to date I have never bought any of it for some reason. I recall their songs like “Heaven Is My Goal,” “Everytime I Feel the Spirit,” “Count Your Blessings,” t”Pray For Me” and of course their early 1980’s remake of the Rev. Maceo Woods and the Christian Tabernacle Concert Choir’s 1970’s Gospel hit, “Jesus Can Work It Out,” which was probably a bigger hit than the original (Which was also popular), just a little slower tempo, along with a “male” lead (versus a “female” on Cosmo’s rendition), and with less “vamp.”

    For years I’ve always wondered if they were a “gay church”; now I know…sad. These HAVE GOT to be the last days. Thanks for the information.

  8. Well, what can I say…its not that these churches are being exposed..they are actually “Coming Out” on their own. I predict many more churches and Pastors will come out. Although, this is second hand info, information from another Pastor..so I don’t know if its write to spread gossip..as it relates to Dr. Hayes living situation…but the fact that an openly Gay Bishop is will recording with a mainstream Gospel Choir is “news”; but its only news because she is “openly” Gay…Gay people have been recording Gospel Music all of my life!…I don’t know of a church that doesn’t have Gay Men “active” in them…so I predict that many more Gay people will come out of the closet..as I have.

    Although I’m Gay..im not a huge fan of Bishop Flunder or Carlton Pearson, because I am not a fan of the “radical inclusion” message. I am not a fan of this “universalism” teaching that believes “All roads lead to God”; no..Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the light…no man can come unto the Father but through him….that is primarily my only issue with Bishop Flunder..is that not her sexual orientation but her theology will lead many who are NOT of the faith such as Muslim, Budhist..etc…never to experience the wonderful loving grace of Jesus Christ. Sorry..all roads or all religions..or all faiths do not lead to God…there are not MANY God’s..there is only ONE true living God.

  9. I didnt see any “coming out on their own” with CCOP. Where’s the evidence of that other than Flunder’s appearance which says a lot about their beliefs.

    And gossip is something that is not true. Are you saying Hayes is not a homosexual? If you dont know, then how can you accuse someone else of spreading gossip?

    That “gay people have been in gospel all your life” only serves to prove the point we have made over and over. Gospel music is rotten and corrupted and we would all do well to sing unto Lord a new song from the purity of our hearts and not be led astray by the music of baal.

    Unfortunately, you have a cacophony of beliefs that really render your opinions gray (lukewarm) at best. Its hypocritical to oppose “radical inclusion” (which indeed is a false teaching) but then accept gay christianity (which is equally a false teaching).

    There is no such schism in God, neither is there any error in him or his Word.

  10. To: GCM Watch..

    I don’t know if Dr. Hayes is a homosexual, but really neither do you. So, at best the information you have is second hand..its coming from another Pastor..another source…to put it in a blog for the whole world to read; is spreading gossip, unless Dr. Hayes has publicly announced his sexual orientation and living arrangement..other wise..its gossip….pure and simple.

    GCMW: No, its called telling the truth (Read 1 Cor 5:1-5 and pay attention to the first 4 words). Your hypocrisy is on display…again. With one face, you applaud the CCOP for “coming out on its own”. I assume you mean as a homosexual church. With the other face, you decry the obvious truth about the gay church’s
    leaders. Perhaps you think we are all naive. How does a gay church (according to you) have a pastor who is NOT gay or affirming of such? In either case Romans 1:32 is applicable. You should read that too.

    So, are you suggesting that the song “Jesus Will Work It Out” performed by CCOP is the music of “baal”?, so how do you explain the many testimonies from christians all of the world, you were blessed by this song or who could relate to the message in the song?…are u suggesting that their music never led anyone to Christ or have more faith that Jesus Christ will work it out?

    GCMW: No, Im not suggesting, it is. Can bitter and sweet come forth from the same fountain? (James 3:11) Being “blessed” does not equate to obedience to God’s word nor does being “blessed” equate to relationship with Christ. That’s tragic thinking. The unsaved can be “blessed” [translate:feel good in their spirit] and then go and continue to sin. People who are in sin release their evil through thier music. Tonex and Ray Boltz are proof of this. When David played his anointing was released and DELIVERED Saul of evil spirits. When these homosexual baal ministers sing, they do the same, except they release evil spirits. And please point out for me biblically where the bible tells us to sing the gospel.

    Christianity has no sexual orientation. I am Christian that so happens to be same gender loving..I don’t make my orientation into a religion..so there is no such thing a Gay Christian or Heterosexual Christian. It seems your blog is obsessed with “sex”; thus the problem with the mainstream black church…they have taken their eyes of Christ and the focus now is “sex”, “money” and “power”…..when will Jesus Christ be the focus again?

    GCMW: You are a person who continually practices sin. That sin is homosexuality which is destestable. What’s more you are deceived because you do not even recognize the clear truth of the scripture. That’s called blindness. As a blind minister, you are leading others into a ditch (hell). That’s why you are here defending sin. That’s what’s in your wicked heart, not the word of the Lord.

    Be blessed!

  11. I realize gay ministers always come with this foolishness about the Church should focus on Jesus arguement to try to deflect from their sin!

    It would seem to me that focusing on sexual immorality was big deal to the Apostles also. The word of God says that sexual immorality is the worse sin because you sin againt your own body.

    1 Corinthians 5:11
    11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

    Psalm 1
    1 Blessed is the man
    Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
    Nor stands in the path of sinners,

    Acts 15:20
    but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.

    1 Corinthians 5:9
    I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.

    1 Corinthians 6:13
    13b. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

    How much clearer can the Word of God be?

    Get a grip, Life and Death is set before all sinners today and God urges to choose life through Christ.

  12. One more thing, its not possible to be focusing on Christ and live in sin as if it is a gift from God! Pastor you spoke about walking in the spirit just last week, “so that you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh”. In this regard we can see that focusing on Christ and thinking your sin is ok is an oxymoron, ITS AN IMPOSSIBLITY! Our guide is called the “HOLY” Spirit, so holiness seems to be the greatest work in our lives.

    So the question is since these “churches” and leaders are abviously not focussing on Christ and being lead by the Holy Spirit, who is their focus and who is leading them?

    2 Timothy 3
    1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    2For men shall be lovers of their own selves…
    4…lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    2 Corinthians 4:4
    4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not…

    I pray the devil blinds these people no longer but what do you do with folk who distort truth for their own selfish reasons? Only The LORD can do this!

  13. Wow!This is really something. There are people on this site admitting their that they are homosexual along with trying to remove the beam from someone’s eye! The word is clear in explaining how God feels about that behavior: He destroyed two whole cities because of their unhealthy sexual desires, so how can anyone feel that God will accept sexual immorality now? Is it because it’s you doing it? God is the same yesterday, today and forever. He also destroyed 23,000 in the new testament for sexual immorality. God is a deliverer and trying to justify sexual immorality MOCKS God! If he’s delivered me from LUST and fornication going on 7 years now, single and abstaining (thank You Jesus!) Why wouldn’t he deliver the homosexual? He would if that’s the sincere desire of the heart and the admittance that it’s wrong along with the spoken desire to be free!

  14. Wow @ Min. Antoine Williams, you are blind indeed. Not only is the “gospel” music industry corrupt, but it certainly follows the trend of the local churches. This is evidence of such.

    Back to Mr. Williams, one scripture that popped into my mind when reading his comment was Romans 1:20-27

    20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

  15. To gcmwatch!

    LOL…so you believe that your calling another Pastor, who happens to live in the same city as Dr. Hayes, good reporting? Are you serious? I am 100% certain that Apostle Paul report was accurate, based upon evidence..not what “he heard” or “someone in the community may or may not know”. Apparently, many in Dr. Haye’s church are unaware of this “report”; that some how this Pastor has become the “expert witness” of….its GOSSIP…that’s all it to..or at best…shaky, rocky reporting that can’t be backed up with real evidence.

    The Bible does encourages us to “sing unto the Lord”, it encourages us “to sing his praises”; one of the ways many of us chose to sing his praises is to tell of his goodness…”Jesus Will Work it Out” is a testimony to his goodness! Has Jesus ever worked anything out for you?

    BTW…do you have singers or a choir or praise and worship team at your church?

    Lastly, you would rather focus on one’s sexual nature rather than deal with the Jesus that is within a believer. Its clear, that your interpretation of the scriptures is that homosexuality is a sin..so why would I even attempt to convice you otherwise..likewise, you know clearly where I stand..and from what I’ve studied and from what has been revealed to me through prayer, fasting..searching..waiting..has led me to my understanding….im still evolving..forever being subject to the tenderness of the Holy Spirit has I am taken to higher heights in him…imma work undone..but what I know..I know and can’t NO man take that away!

    Love you with the love of Jesus Christ

  16. To “truthofgod”…maybe you should continue reading Romans Chapter 2…

    for the record

    1. I have never denied the existence of God.
    2. I have never worshiped a man made image, object, or person or thing..
    3. Secondly, my sexual orientation is indeed “natural”; so natural it is in expressed in “nature”; in the animal kingdom as well as in “human beings”….perhaps for Apostle Paul..the idea of same gender love was out of his “norm” or what he ever considered “norm”, but thank God..Apostle Paul..although a great man of God; is not God..and last I look..Apostle Paul didn’t lay down his life for me..my friend..Jesus Christ took care of that…and what did Jesus Christ have to say about same gender loving people?…WHOSOEVER will..let him come…

  17. Min. Antwoine Williams, please take a read.

    I John 3
    7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

    John 3
    19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

    Jesus is calling you to true repentance!

  18. Elder Foster,
    It is evident that Min.Williams does not believe that all scripture is given by inspiration of God.It is so sad to see someone trying to use portions of the Word Of God to defend their sinful,ungodly and unholy lifestyle,then reject the same Word comdemns such practices.
    Thanks for this post,I see the demonic deception that is working in lives of some professing “Christians”.

  19. Min. Williams said…

    3. Secondly, my sexual orientation is indeed “natural”; so natural it is in expressed in “nature”; in the animal kingdom as well as in “human beings”….

    Really? Well I’ve never seen a homosexual dog or cat…

  20. There is a spiritual place a person can get to where they become totally reprobate, where God just allows them to fall under the sway of a “strong delusion”. I am fearful that “Minister” Williams is in that terrible place (or close to it) and doesn’t even realize it.

  21. Gay doctrine is comical. I think Jesus speaks clearly about who belongs with whom. Male belongs with female. No substitutes. That’s the Lord’s natural design. But I guess Noah took 3 of a kind into the ark and I misread it. LOL!!

    Matthew 19: 4-6

    4And he (Jesus) answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

    5And said, For this cause shall a man (male) leave father(male) and mother (female), and shall cleave to his wife(female): and they twain shall be one flesh (have kids and/or copulate)?

    6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    In other words, stop trying to change the plan – everything he made was GOOD.

    Excuse the parentheses, but some people need those. If you haven’t noticed, some dictionaries no longer identify wife as a woman joined to a man in marriage, but simply as a female spouse. But the Bible is clear if men’s books are not.

    Be Blessed All!!

  22. Tonex has said it best in his interviews w/Lexi….. he is still anointed, gifted and saved

    Where would the “church” be w/o homosexuals? All the music you sing, cry to, shout to, dance to, ….95% is written, recorded and still performed by homosexuals.

    Why does the church and the COGIC still continue to ridicule and single out homosexuality? Is it worse than adultery? Fornification? Overeating?

    When is the church going to wake up?? We are gay, we are saved and we are here!!! We’re still in your churches, support your churches and will continue to lead you to the holy place in our worship services.

    Yvette Flunder is saving souls!!! More than what the rest of you no-name preachers are doing. I have no problems w/her or Cosmopolitan…

    Recently attended an AA meeting w/a friends who’s now sober for 6 months… and it’s astounding how the church has led so many people astray by not accepting all people.

    Wake up oh Zion!!

    God never removed the thorn from Paul… but said my Grace is sufficient.

  23. Minister Williams is under a strong delusion. He is choosing to
    follow his own devised plan of self righteousness and to deny that standard that God has set up in the Word of God.
    Minister Williams is among many people who do the same thing…they are called sinners.
    Minister Williams needs prayer asking that God have mercy on his
    proud soul and that he should still come to repentance.
    Sinners will do anything to be in right standing in their own eyesight…Minister Williams is doing the same thing.
    He is doing what he is by nature suppose to do…sin. Sinners sin.
    That is their fallen nature.
    Minister Williams is doing a fine job of sinning. What makes his
    job so fine is that he is comfortable with it and at the time sees
    no reason to repent and accept the mercy of God on his sinful
    life.
    Go Minister Williams! Keep on sinning until you get tired, like the prodigal son, who then decided to cry out for mercy.
    People of God, the “minister” Williams of the world are out in full force strutting their sins as if it is a badge of honor.
    Pray for them. Satan has beguiled them and they are trapped. Only
    God can remove those scales from their eyes.

  24. Where exactly are you getting the statistic that “95% is written, recorded and still performed by homosexuals?” I believe that to be a gross exaggeration. This does not serve your interest to make wild claims such at this.

    Also, let’s clear up another miscommunication from ‘Alex.’ Yvette Flunder does NOT save souls. Neither she nor any other mortal has the ability to save souls. Define soul. Do you even know what a soul is comprised of? Do you know the difference between a soul and a spirit?

    Many of these so called pastors have elevated themselves to God status. They have transfigured themselves to the role of Jesus; in some cases, they demand that they are worshiped and idolized as such. Regarding the no name preachers comment, you have given credibility to my argument that people idolize the preacher and that the preachers have a sense of entitlement. Unfortunately, this mindset has been fostered and encouraged by those in leadership in an effort to position themselves to not be held accountable for their actions, behavior and deeds.

    Just because a preacher may be known, that does not mean that the person is teaching sound doctrine. This is a great deception within the church. This is how people fall into error and into cults. Name ONE sermon this pastor is know for. That shouldn’t be too difficult. I only want one. I said sermon and not a song.

    The focus should be on the message and not necessarily the lifestyle of the individual. You spoke of the thorn in Paul’s side. Do you care to elaborate what said thorn happened to be?

    GCMW: Cheyenne, I will pick up here since the rest seems to be directed at me

    Cosmopolitan has the right to invite whomever they choose to their gospel concerts.

    GCMW: Youre correct. That was not a contention of this post.

    I agree with Antwoine in regards to the fact that gathering hearsay from another pastor is not necessarily factual reporting. However, with the internet, yellow journalism has been taken to another level. Do I agree with all of Antwoine’s assessments? NO However, he has right to his opinion. Can you or this pastor substantiate these claims with irrefutable evidence or truth? Do you or the pastor posses firsthand knowledge of the implications and allegations set forth?

    GCMW: Like Antwoine, you seem to be applying a secular standard to dealing with a purely biblical issue. In this context, a report is valid to make judgment. Paul’s basis of judging the sexually immoral man at Corinth was based on a report from someone at the church. In fact, it was “commonly” reported. Paul himself did not witness nor did he know the man, but the report alone (and the attitude of the church about it) was enough evidence for Paul to determine the judgment. Although I didn’t use the several other “reports” I received, there are sufficient information to conclude that Hayes is a homosexual leading an apostate church. And once again, association with Yvette Flunder is proof enough for me. Sorry, that you see it as an issue of “yellow journalism”, but youre entitled to your opinion. I would caution to weigh against biblical precedent and not American social norms.

    Also, regarding homosexuality amongst animals…it is a documented scientific fact that this occurs. Read a book and watch a few documentaries to keep up with the rest of us in the real world. Using google can also be of great assistance. The ignorance of Christians, in general, is absolutely astounding at times.

    GCMW: And it is still sin. If the whole world turned homosexual and science approved of it, it wouldnt change the Word of the Lord which endures forever. Let GOD be true and every man a liar. Google that scripture and see where you stand.

    I am not a big Hayes fan, but he doesn’t deserve to be mistreated in this manner by people who have unresolved and repressed sexual issues and hangups. You have failed to accurately and fairly assess the situation, gather the necessary facts, speak to all parties to glean an understanding of the situation, and give an unbiased ‘opinion.’

    GCMW: Who cares whether you are a fan? Thats not the issue at all. And since you so passionately believe the opposite, you could easily prove all this wrong. Call Hayes and ask him. Then come back and post your findings. In fact, I’ll make that a prerequisite for you posting again.

    Hayes is known for making the same error as the author of this error riddled article: in regards to making hasty, and often wrong, decisions and assumptions only to find out later that he was wrong and that he hurt a lot of people in the process. I hope that you all learn from this experience.

  25. @ Cheyenne,

    …The focus should be on the message and not necessarily the lifestyle of the individual…

    I certainly agree with your post, but one thing I’d like to address. I believe it is dire that a person’s lifestyle should reflect the message he/she preaches. God desires for us to be imitators of Him. It is His divine will that we are “conformed to the image of Jesus Christ”. If a person is preaching the word and living opposite of it, isn’t he/she a hypocrite? Even Paul says,”Follow me as I follow Christ”. I think that is sound advice for us today.

  26. This is unbelievable!

    Any focus on a message and not the life of the messenger is total nonsense! So we should all act the fool and then preach the word of God about walking worthy of our calling? are we not to be examples? Isnt that what Paul told timothy

    1 Timothy 4:12

    12Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

    Stating someone elses shortcomings does not excuse or pardon sin, that is immature and just trying to deflect from the issue at hand.

    Alex, if you have a problem with fornication, over eating and adultery may I suggest you preach against it and correct the church. You can also start your own blog – fornicators Christian movement watch, ect – what you think?

    As for homosexual animals? well in the animal kingdom the males fight over who will be the dominant male and will mate with the all the females, in some insects the female eats the male after mating, what about when lions take over a pride they kill the young from the former alpha male, should we incorporate these into the norms of being a human? We humans are not driven by instinct but a conscience of right and wrong, this is why we have jail’s and laws.

    Not that I believe animals are gay, they are just driven by the instinct of reproduction. Its noted that most if the so called homosexuality is in males, they are very driven, after all its the males that engage in fighting for the right to mate.

    Dogs hump legs too, what does that make them?

    Come on, we really gotta accept the scriptures and stop twisting things.

    Alex, you need to repent, Jesus loves you, the devil and sin have you vieled and blinded but Christ can remove those scales.

  27. I am really done with this subject..not going to post back and forth about “homosexuality” and is it a sin or not…i just wanted to address this particular blog..and I have…but i’ve notice it has gone in a direction that honestly speaking will be debated for centuries to come..most likely until Jesus himself returns. But, I do wonder why it is easy for some organizations/denominations to come to the truth as it relates to homosexuality and others seem to be having a much harder time..i need not point out that those denominations that have come to the truth of matter of same gender loving people are predominantly white organizations..older institutions..and denominations that place more emphasis upon “studying”, “researching” and seem to understand that the Bible is a historical book, that must be interpreted through the lenses of its historical nature; the who, what, when, where and why is vital to understanding ancient manuscript..to think intellectually…is also vital…combined with prayer..can lead to all truths..thank God for these churches..one even ordained an openly Gay Bishop…

    To each his or her own…im done with this particular blog..look forward to others..shockingly enough..im beginning to like this site..interesting if nothing else..

    Be blessed!

  28. Just to piggypack Paul N,

    Scripture says in Psalm 37:37: Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.

    So we should have spiritual mentorship in the church, but if we can’t see purity, chastity, clean, holy, sanctified, undefiled lifestyles in our leadership, then who do we follow after (not cancelling out Christ)?

    I am for cancelling out every compromised singer in the church, A to Z, b/c they carry no parts of God. And ultimately they just get people to want to be like them, and not God. How many women want to be like Mary Mary, God in me? This mindset is so tragic.

    Bitter and sweet cannot flow from the same, so if you still shacking, clubbing, lying, cheating, stealing, lusting, idolizing, whatever your sin, you have not the seed of righteousness in you. Therefore you cannot produce righteous fruit. And the attributes of God cannot inhabit your song, b/c it’s not praise to the true and living God. Filthy stench in his nostrils is what it is. Kinda like Cain. So unsaved songs and singers have ZERO ANOINTING, AND ZERO GOD-GIVEN AUTHORITY TO EFFECT CHANGE IN OTHER’S LIVES!!

    I just quit playing my guitar in church over this very issue b/c anyone can come in and lead the worship service on instruments or sing – there’s no standard anymore, or accountability. I don’t have but maybe 12 songs on my itunes anymore because I keep finding out about these fake anointing people still having the world produce and proclaim their music, still performing with the world, still singing secular songs, doing secular venues. Burn it all down to the ground with the real anointing of God, the Holy Ghost and fire he promised. Not feeling good w/o changing b/c that’s all many of these songs do for people.

    Be Blessed!!

  29. Compromise is a killa. Everyone [in the harlot church system] wants us to lay aside the Lord’s words and just be nice and play the game.

    You said it: these fake anointing minstrels prance in the church, do their ditty and prance out. This is nothing but hay, wood and stubble and it wont survive the test of God’s fire.

    P289, much respect to you. I mean that brother.

    But dont stop giving your gift in honor of the Giver.

  30. I won’t stop giving my gift. I had to take some time off though – just following God’s orders. It was a growing burden to step back from playing and sorta observe the “tune” of service. I started back playing about 3 weeks later and refused to play compromised songs. It was weird, but I have rest in how I’m approaching it.

    I still teach Sunday School and YPWW, and if the Lord delays his coming will be stepping into the ministry soon. So I can still be a vessel in other capacities, and play music that truely glorifies Him.

    But Lord help us if we continue to open the gate and don’t hold as much as we are able to control out. Some things I used to play not knowing, but once I find out, it’s removed from me as fast as I can hit the delete button in my mind.

    Keep praying for me!!

  31. Good for you P28Nine!

    What you say is the truth, the focus is on man and not God. If its presented in an way that sounds kool and tight and all that, we buy it, no one questions if its biblical or not, its sounds good and it says God in it!

    I was talking with a few individuals on youtube and they actually said that it isnt necessary for a “Gospel” song to line up bibically! what do you say after that?

    Be strong in The LORD and in the power of His might. May The LORD use you mightily as you play and teach, may the hearers be encouraged and edified!

  32. The so called “study” of the scriptures to which Antione refers has never refuted the “historic” condemnation of homosexuality by GOD revelaed in the book called the Bible. Joe Dallas’ writings that do refute the pro-gay theology should be carefully considered by this youn man. He is deceived.

  33. Proverbs28Nine I’ve done and am continuing to do the same. It’s heartbreaking that the the Gospel Music Machine is indeed a proud, putrid and diseased whore. I know that sounds harsh and I hate that its true. But we need to call things as they are. I’m so disgusted that if I weren’t a Christian and led by the Spirit some of this stuff would provoke me to be ready to go to blows. I’ve been turning down engagements for 4 years because I have small children and I’ve been to invited to places (church functions) to sing that I was afraid to take my children and quite frankly, scared to go myself. Some of these places are more scary than ANY haunted house. Because the monsters there are REAL! And they are really out to GET YOU!!! We need an intervention. Come quickly, LORD JESUS!

  34. Saints… just a thought, if I may…

    The words of Paul in 2 Cor 11:13-15 come to mind when reading some the posts I’ve come across here:
    ” 13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;”

    I’m 100% convinced that just as the devil has fake preachers operating in pulpits to deceive the flock, similarly there are demon-possessed fake “Christians” trolling Christian blogs and websites such as these for the purpose of spreading their poisonous doctrine and false “testimony” in order to deceive the people of God.

    People of God, please keep that in mind when reading some of the posts on this site. At times, we will find ourselves wrestling (and arguing) not against flesh and blood, but against demonic principalities and powers who’re looking to spread their “gay Christian” propaganda any chance they get, to deceive the gullible, and to try to undermine the good work Bro Foster is doing with this website.

    Saints, we should never forget who we’re dealing with. Let us never be ignorant of the devil’s devices, but rather, may our spiritual eyes always be wide open. God bless.

  35. Amen to that Observer. This is more than arguments on a blog.
    This is a form of spiritual warfare.
    Pastor Foster, stand firm in the full armour of God.

  36. Observer I will echo what you said and agree. Its much more than what meets the natural eye. Sure, we laugh and make silly on some occasions, but this [blog] is meant to be a sword (Eph 6:13-17). And we dont apologize nor bear the sword for naught. You would not believe the demonic voices (operating through people) that attempt access. One night I deleted 40+ posts from one individual. Most were foul beyond belief. Vigilance is part of my ministry.
    So I ask your prayers for this work.
    Every Christian worth their salt needs to know and practice use of the sword to become proficient and comfortable using it.

  37. Hi,
    I just viewed the Cosmopolitan Choir on U Tube to listen to “Work it Out” I’d never seen the choir or pastor before but just got some red flags as I was watching. I went to the church’s home page to get info on their doctrinal statement and found very little. I tired to research the school where “Father Hayes” got his Doctorate – Religious Science Institute. I couldn’t find this “school” but found variations on the RSI name and none of it was Christian. Do you have any information on this school?

    GCMW: Mary, never heard of RSI. I suspect it is one of those back pocket schools where getting a “doctorate” is about as easy as making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Even if RSI was a credible school,it wouldnt change Hayes’ false teacher status. He would just be an educated false teacher. thanks.

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