Steve Harvey promotes "90 day fornication rule" on TBN

by shofarsound

steveharveyActor, comedian, author, and radio personality Steve Harvey made an appearance on the Trinity Broadcast Network’s (TBN) show, Praise the Lord.  Airing May 11th, 2010 with Paula White as the host, Harvey talked about his book, “Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man.” He specifically discussed the “90 day rule.” This rule tells women to put a man on probation before giving away any “benefits.” Harvey went on to state that he knows that the Bible says a person should wait until s/he gets married to have sex and he agrees with that whole-heartedly.  But he states that since people are not going to wait until marriage to have sex, they should at least wait for 90 days.  Paula White wholeheartedly agreed with him and didn’t correct him at all!  The crowd laughed in agreement.  The Bible warns us in Jude 18-19, “How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.”

First, this interview is disturbing because it takes place on Christian television!  It would have been somewhat acceptable if it were aired on a secular station or radio show.  The nature of Harvey’s statement would have been more understandable and expected.  We as believers could have just passed his statements off as worldly wisdom with a roll of the eyes upward.

Secondly, his statement boldly goes against the Word of God. God doesn’t grade sin on a curve.  He doesn’t look at certain situations and say “…ok I’ll let you slide by on that one because you can’t help yourself.”  This is a prime example of cheap grace.   God is a holy God.  The Word says, “Be ye holy for I am Holy.” (Leviticus 11:45).

Harvey’s book may make some good points for women. But is his book’s wisdom of God or earthly? James 3:15 says, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but earthly, sensual, devilish.” The book my offer some good advice for women to follow, but telling them they can’t abstain from fornication is earthly, sensual, and downright demonic.  His advice is within the guidelines of the world system. Godly wisdom within the kingdom of God falls under James 3:17 which says, “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy, and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”  When a person walks in the wisdom of God, they will first be pure, have good fruit.  The good fruit a person shows from abstaining from fornication will manifest as two parts of the fruit of the Spirit:  longsuffering (endurance and patience) and temperance( having control or mastery over one’s desires or passions).

The ironic part of this interview was Harvey began to sound like the serpent in the Garden of Eden. He basically tells others what the Word of God says and agrees with it, “Abstain from sex before marriage!”  But then slyly adds, “hardly any Christians keep the Word of God anyway.  So since we all know you’re not going to abstain, its okay to do it…just wait 90 days until you do.”  He speaks as if the Word has loopholes in it. These types of comments are just like those of the serpent when he told Eve that she would be as gods (Genesis 3:5) deciding for herself what is good and evil instead of leaning on understanding of the Word of God and keeping His Word. This type of nature is rooted in Satanism. Aleister Crowley’s, Book of the Law states “Do as thou wilt, is the whole book of the law, which means I can do as I please and I don’t have to line up with the Word of God.” Even in Anton Lavey nine satanic commandments of the Satanic Bible, the first commandment is that Satan represents indulgences instead of abstinence. First Thessalonians 4:3 states, “For this the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication.”  The key word is to abstain from fornication, not to indulge in fornication by giving a man sexual benefits after a 90-day probation period.  This is outside the will of God.

One may ask Shofarsound what is the big deal? It just fornication! God understands I have needs that must be met.  Everybody in my church is having sex and they aren’t married.  They still sing in the choir.  They’re preaching.  They’re teaching.  They’re still serving on the usher board. Does that mean you follow the broad road to destruction (Matthew 7:13)? If everyone jumps off the bridge are you going jump also? I don’t think so!

Biblical View on Fornication

The Old Testament viewed premarital sex as a capital offense against one’s future spouse. This was unlike the Gentile nations that condoned premarital sex. The Greek word for fornication is porneuo, which means to act like a harlot, indulge in unlawful lust of either sex, or practice idolatry – fornication. Fornication is idolatry, because that person you sleep with isn’t your spouse.  You’re bowing down to get in the bed with your idol instead of obeying the Word of God.   It is idolatry when an individual places a person they’re consistently fornicating with over the Word.  First Samuel 15:23 states, “stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.”

That person you’re sleeping with is an idol in your heart and it is evident that the Holy Spirit doesn’t reign supreme in your life. Every time that person calls you jump up and run to him/her.  The next thing you know, you’re in the sack.   The Holy Spirit calls out to you in order to lead and guide you into all truth.  That person means no good for your spirituality.  Instead of listening, you turn a deaf ear to the voice of Godly wisdom.

First Corinthians 6:18-20 says, “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.”   Our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost. When you fornicate you desecrate your temple.  You sin against your own body. If you continue in the sin of fornication you will die.  Romans 6:23 tells us that the wages of sin is death.  You may eventually earn a sexually transmitted disease that attacks your physical body.

Fornication Destroys the Soul

Sexual sins destroys the soul (Proverbs 6:32). The Greek word for soul is called psuche, which derives psychology study of the soul. Your soul is made up of the intellect, will, memory, emotions, and imagination. First example your involve in fornication, Your intellect or reasoning will tell you that you’re in love with him or her so its ok to have sex before marriage.  You essentially rely on your own understanding instead of the Word of God.  Secondly, after you intellectualize being in a sexual relationship your will is given unto your carnal desires. Thirdly, you will have memories of the good and bad things of the illicit relationship. Why do you think someone can be in the act of intercourse with one person and call out another person’s name? It is because the soul connection of the memory is still there.  The person is comparing their present sexual experience with a former.  The fourth example is the emotions.  You develop the emotion of bitterness.  Because of your memory, you remember all the bad relationships you had in the past.  A person develops bitterness and emotional detachment. So when man or woman of God comes to you, your’re damage goods from all the bad relationships you had in the past.  You’re unable to make that godly connection. Lastly is the imagination.  The enemy uses the imagination to keep sexual perverse thoughts in your head and to prevent you from being obedient to the will of God.

So whether 90 days or 20 years, if you’re not married you need to abstain from fornication. We all must keep in mind that fornicators shall not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9; Galatians 5:19-21). Ecclesiastes 12:13 says, “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”  Keep His commandments and the Holy Spirit will give you keeping power to overcome the devil, the world, and your flesh.  So will you listen to the Word of God or Steve Harvey?


47 thoughts on “Steve Harvey promotes "90 day fornication rule" on TBN

  1. This is a clear indication of how insignificant and irrelevant the WORD OF GOD is to many so-called Christians in the world today.I have decided to let GOD be true and every man a liar,that includes Steve Harvey.

  2. I think Paula White’s new designation as a “life coach” helped to open doors for those who are CINO (Christians in name only) like Steve Harvey.

    Its one thing for Steve Harvey to struggle with his own sins, but to be placed in a position of influence with a national platform specifically aimed at Christians is reprehensible at best.

    Of course TBN really is after money first of all. That’s why you will keep seeing them parade these creepy crawly spirits dressed up as “stars” and “celebrities” across the TV screen. Remember Chaka Khan, Letoya Luckett? They did just about the same thing. Unfortunately the church crowd wants stars, not Jesus. He’s a little too boring for them right now.

    Shofarsound you made an excellent observation when you said he began sounding just like the snake in the garden.

    The church has in the interest of looking tolerant and inclusive opened the door for serpents, vipers and pied pipers to destroy the flock.

    Thanks for clearly articulating GODS WAY.

  3. Praise The LORD!

    And he is the host The Celebration of GOSPEL, he was also on TBN with Donnie McClurkin saying how the people who works with have a lot of God in them and how the church drives them out. He doesnt get it and the worst part is that people who looked upon as season Christians make him feel comfortable in his sin.

    How can a child of God encourage and justify sin based on the fact that most Christians are not following Gods word. Does that make Gods word and ways any less right?

  4. This is Donnie McClurkin’s man. Remember how Donnie checked Tonex at a COGIC event but didn’t check Steve in an interview over this book that promotes fornication. It just opened the floodgates, for this.

    Thanks Paula White, what is next, Vicki Gene on TBN preaching?

  5. Typical of the ‘please yourself and do whatever you want to do, it is just a phase, you will eventually get it out of your system’ sermons that is common place in the MAJORITY of churches today

    but I am reminded of what Ezekiel says

    The soul that sin shall die

    Jesus taught (without prejudice) if anyman will come after me, let him

    Deny himself

    which mean let the desires, ambitions and wishes of selfish die so that Christ reigns supreme

  6. Wow. Pretty this stuff is pretty mind-boggling to me.
    I’m still trying to figure out which is the worst of these:

    A) TBN having this man on in the first place, who is quite evidently not a true born-again Christian.
    B) Steve Harvey spouting this nonsense, blatantly displaying a compromising attitude toward sin,
    C] An audience full of professing Christians laughing along, as if what he said was cute, unaware (or not caring) that he what he said was essentially an injection of spiritual poison into the minds of the viewers —- especially dangerous to those who might already be struggling with sexual sin.
    D) Reverend/LifeCoach Paula White agreeing with him… instead of putting him in check right away, and challenging him immediately for his outrageous “don’t fornicate for 90 days” rule

    Sigh. They’re they’re all pretty bad, but for now, I’m going with “D” as being the worst. Lord, help your people.

  7. Wow!!! Pastor Foster and ShofarSound! Keep on sounding the Alarm Brethren and Sisters of the TRUE VINE!

    Y’all know what? I ain’t mad at Steve Harvey! The man has not had a genuine salvation experience (repentance and renewal of the spirit, soul and mind) and he has not been told the TRUTH! TBN, T.D. Jakes and Donnie McClurkin and now Paula White(a spiritual daughter of Jakes) have done more harm spiritually to this man’s(Steve Harvey) soul because they compromised to gain his friendship and they have used him. They have not and will not tell him the truth!

    Because they have not discipled him or openly rebuked him…They are endorsing him and are in agreement with Baal! I am mad at TBN, the Word Network and all of these false prophets and false teachers on “Christian Entertainment TV”.

    Pastor Foster, You are on point. These wicked Christians(that doesn’t even sound right???) are so desparate for mammon and fame if they think one Hellywood…I mean Hollywood Helebrity…I mean…If they get one or more Hollywood Celebrities converted to become a partner(s) of TBN or their ministry or to tell jokes at MegaMess…I mean MegaFest. They are using these celebrities to endorse their agenda and their kingdoms…NOT JESUS’ KINGDOM.

    JESUS CHRIST did not tell the people Jokes! HE told them the truth!!! So why aren’t you doing so TBN, Jakes, McClurkin, White, and etc..????I always ask this question now…WHO’s or who’s Kingdom are we building?????

    All I got to say is Woe unto TBN! Why didn’t they edit this garbage before releasing it to the Body of CHRIST and the world! Or better yet, CANCEL/DELETE and NEVER RELEASE it to the public? That’s a bold devil for sure to even allow this. TBN you know better! SHAME ON YOU! James 4:17 KJV
    (17) Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    This scripture applies to these wolves…modern day pharisees…Mat 23:15 KJV
    (15) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. These people have conned Steve Harvey into thinking that he is OK, forgiven, and good standing with a HOLY GOD! Instead of rebuking him and correcting him…NO MATTER WHAT THE COST…They compromised! They have made Steve even worse spiritually! Because now he is under condemnation of adding to the word of GOD!

    May each of you who are uplifting the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST/YESHUA HAMASHIACH have a blessed and joyful holiday weekend in HIS NAME! And to those of you who DO NOT KNOW JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOUR, Repent of your sins and come to the CROSS of CHRIST and RECEIVE HIS Atonement for your sins and SAVE YOURSELVES from this UNTOWARD(Crooked, Perverse, Unstable, Froward(Frauds!))Generation!!!!! Acts 2:40

    Pastor Foster and Shofarsound…I pray for your ministry and family to continue to be strong in the LORD and in the power of HIS might and I ask that you pray for me as I pray for you in JESUS NAME! Amen.

  8. to shofarsound

    You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
    How dare you have the unmitigated gall to call TBN christian television!!!

  9. Steve Harvey spouts such garbage all the time, he is the reason I get out of bed in the morning…he is the best alarm clock because you don’t oversleep because you WILL GET UP to turn off his stupidity.
    Steve Harvey is actively pursuing the church. The old partyheads are now in church (but not really about scripture), so he is pursuing his audience.
    Steve Harvey is only as relevant as his audience is biblically illiterate. He thinks he is imparting some great knowledge (esp. to women) about life, relationships, etc. He is only useful to those who are unaware and odn’t know. To others, he is a clown and a buffoon.

  10. Well, EnochWalked,
    I guess I see it very differently. I’m mad at all of them, including Steve Harvey. Even if he were born again (which I personally doubt, just judging by the fruit.. Matt 7:20) he’s obviously in no spiritual condition to be imparting life-lessons/pearls-of-wisdom to Christians on TV!

    If he has a home church he attends regularly, and has submitted a pastor that’s shepherding his soul, how can he NOT know that fornication is wrong?? This man hosts a Gospel [industry] show on TV… and he thinks fornication is ok after a 90-day cooling off period?? Just ridiculous.

  11. The Apostle Paul wrote in 1 Timothy 3:6 in qualification of a overseer or even in ministry in general, to not put a novice in position lest they be lifted up in pride and fall into condemnation of the devil. Jakes, TBN, Mcclurkin, and White validate this novice giving him platfrom to speak and contradict the Word of God. Harvey is very prideful anytime see him interviewed on TBN rather it is Donnie Mcclurkin or Paula White interviewing him, nobody will ever check him because he is a celebrity that draws viewers and $$$.

    I guess most these mega preachers if they were back in the early church, in the Book of Acts Chapter 16 verse 16, they would have the damsel with a spirit of divination speaking at there profitic/prophetic conference or a guess on there program to promote her ministry. After all didn’t this woman with the spirit of divination bring her masters much gain? I think E. Bernard Jordan would have her on his program on the Word Network to give a word. What do you think?

  12. Good Post. Pastor GMC..Can you elaborate or do you have a further study on how fornication destroys the soul. I am particularly interested in how you broke down the process of what our soul is made up of and what fornication does to each segment of the sould “Your soul is made up of the intellect, will, memory, emotions, and imagination”

  13. oregonsistah, that post was written by shofarsound. Im sure he will respond to your comment.

  14. Nice guest commentary! We should not be surprised that Steve Harvey is tapping into the lucrative CNO market – or that Paula White continues to transform herself as an “angel of light”. Like enochwalked said (and glad to “see” you brother, btw) – Harvey is doing what unregenerate sinners do – playing his role. Woe to those who claim to be learned that actually listen to what he or “Pretty Paula” White (the ORIGINAL Florida gator) has to say.

  15. He is a new Christian and as such is still coming out of the world. He is not yet convicted that fornication is wrong and should not be encouraged, “because they are going to do it anyway.” As he matures and grows in Christ, I bet in his next book he will right this wrong. It takes time for Satan’s grip to be totally loosened. Sometimes it happens right away and sometimes it takes longer. Keep praying for him and for others to confront him in love. People so badly want to be liked and accepted. We should only be concerned about being accepted by God. “Well done my good and faithful servant”.

  16. Jeanine said:

    He is a new Christian and as such is still coming out of the world. He is not yet convicted that fornication is wrong and should not be encouraged, “because they are going to do it anyway.” As he matures and grows in Christ, I bet in his next book he will right this wrong. It takes time for Satan’s grip to be totally loosened. Sometimes it happens right away and sometimes it takes longer. Keep praying for him and for others to confront him in love. People so badly want to be liked and accepted. We should only be concerned about being accepted by God. “Well done my good and faithful servant”.

    Come on now, Steve Harvey is not a Christian by any means. He does not display any Kingdom fruit, he wrote a book promoting the sin fornication. So whose kingdom does that advance?

    Steve hasn’t spent any time before God and certainly wouldn’t give up his platform to do it. He just transferred his worldly fame into the Church because the “leaders” on TBN want to use him to make money, he doesn’t need to be on TBN.

    No amount of being used by TD Jakes at megaflesh with help him on Judgment Day.

  17. I really believe that what shofarsound said that no novice (and Jeanine I think that what he is) should be given such a platform. Let’s be honest the ONLY reason Steve Harvey was on TBN was not because he was spiritually mature or had something of significance to say to the Body, it was because he was a “celebrity”. Its a recipe for disaster just like the bible said. Even Paul went into the desert for 3 years after being saved to learn of the Lord and become strong.

  18. That is very true and reminds me of what it says in Timothy about not appointing eldership to those who are new in the faith. Also when God convicts us of sin, he doesn’t convict all of our sins at one time. So I do believe that Steve Harvey is being convicted of his sins and a need for Jesus on different levels that we are not privy too and I hope that in the future that he will be convicted about fornication. I have been married for 14 years, and only in the past 3 years, has my husband now been fully convinced that fornication is wrong. The veil has been remmoved. I don’t know why it took so long but it did. He did grow up with seeing his father womanize woman, he in turn was abused by a male family member, which in turn led him to prove his manhood by womanizizng. He thought that he could be a Christian and carry on this way. Thankfully he is now fully healed of this way of thinking, but it did take time. So right know the fruit that Steve Harvey has is immature as it pertains to fornication. By God’s grace may it mature and he come full circle about what it means to be an ambassador for Christ and not for Satan in ALL areas of his life.

  19. Sister Jeanine,
    I hear what you are saying. Yes Steve Harvey needs true discipling and NOT “enabling” by wolves in sheeps clothing!

    But…and I mean a big BUT. My problem is with TBN ALLOWING this lie from the pits of hell go forth across the airways…Who is editing over there? Who is watching as well as praying?

    TBN compromised. They did not stand for the TRUTH! They and Paula White were more concerned about the praises of men than PLEASING GOD! That is an abomination for a so-called Christian television network to allow that LIE to go forth! There needs to be an open apology from Steve Harvey and from TBN to correct this LIE! Amen.

    Hello Brother Speaking Truth! I am glad to hear from you too! I see you are still sounding the alarm! Keep it up!

    Happy Independence Day in JESUS CHRIST! JESUS set us free at Calvary! Hallelujah!

  20. I agree with what people are saying here overall. What people have been missing overall, I believe, is that TBN IS NOT repeat, IS NOT, a CHRISTIAN STATION! Steve Harvey’s appearance on that show is but a small microcosm of what represents all of TBN and its affiliates. His appearance is but a small cog in the jet engine of complete apostasy, blasphemy, compromise and ani-christ behavior.

    All that appear on there endorse all of what TBN believes and teaches. To that end, it should not be surprising to anyone that Paula chose not to correct Steve on this “90 day rule.” On top of that, given Steve’s messy marital history, his “advising” anyone how to act is just as much a problem, I believe, that his 90 day chastity rule.

  21. this is result of this new title in the church “LIFECOACH” Men and women no longer want to be called Pastor or Elder that makes them accountable…!! Steve Harvey’s is no authority on anything not being married and divorced several times He would be the perfect guest to give her the license to sin…Paula, now is more gulliable than ever… how can u leave a church and people you said God called u to and move hundreds of miles away to another state.. what happens to all those souls that God assigned/left in your hands? I’m wondering if there is someone who has peeked her intrest in Texas…

  22. Yes, brother EnochWalked, you are right about TBN. Paula should have corrected him on the spot or have that disclaimer on the bottom about the views of the speaker not reflecting the views of TBN as it pertains to fornication. Which really of course is the view as it pertains to God. I would say to pray for them to be discerning about who they allow on their shows and for them to focus on the true gospel that leads to repentance and salvation. If Steve Harvey is invited to come back, he should correct that mistake and apologize for leading women and men astray to the broad road that leads to destruction. We should pray for him and others who have believed Satan’s lies about sex. May God continue to have mercy on him so that he can repent and be a TRUE ambassador for Christ. As long as we are still alive, there is hope for repentance. Keep hope alive! God bless! May we never grow weary in praying for others, for in due time we will reap a harvest.

  23. To oregonsistah,

    Here is the response to your question. Most who study in field the fields of social science have the conclusion a man soul is made up of intellect(ability to learn and reason); will(mental faculty one deliberately chooses or decides); memory(mental faculty of retaining or recalling past experiences); emotions(part of the consciousness involves feelings or sensibility); and imagination(form mental image or concepts).

    In the Word you see words like heart, mind, heartily is in reference to the soul/ the inner-man. The Hebrew word leb is defined the feelings, will, intellect. Look at Psalm 119:11 keep the Word hid in your heart.

    Also being that I studied social science in college, and a I use to be over youth groups and singles ministry years ago the Lord gave me insight on breaking down the soul to help others to avoid the pitfalls of sin in general. I believe when people(Christians) line their soul up with the Word of God, and let the Holy Spirit lead and guide us into all truth, Christian folk wouldn’t be practicing sin. I think folk in Church don’t really think out the true consequences of sin, they just go with how they’re feeling or thinking, instead of basing their thought process on the Word. Remember Joshua 1:8, we will have good success if meditate day and night on the Word.

  24. Look this isn’t only just about 2 individuals sinning or a single persons belief. The influence of that book from Christians who are going to buy and read is going to be a major stumbling block. It is literally going to effect this nation and world because look where TBN is broadcast, worldwide.

    Steve Harvey is not a Christian, he does believe in the Bible, he is not saved and he is a CINO. Steve is trying to sit at the table of the Lord and the table of demons you can’t do it. Lets stop making excuses for the man because of his comedic ability, Steve Harvey openly mocks God and His holiness.

    Paula White should not have corrected him on the spot because Steve Harvey should not have been on a Christian TV station in the first place. Yes I realize TBN is not much of anything resembling what a Christian run station should be but you get my point.

    Steve Harvey is as much of a Christian as MAW. So if you consider Steve Harvey a Brother in Christ so is MAW… you.

  25. It would be one thing if fornication were not in the bible and you had to figure out….. How much convincing and time do you need to be sure that fornication is not a sin.

    It’s in black and white for us to see and does not take years of study and enlightening to “come into the knowledge” that fornication is wrong.

    I think its more of knowing it’s wrong but not ready to give it up ..

    As far as Steve’s book, I didn’t need to open it to know that He is the wrong person to get advice from, especially as a Christian Woman.

  26. Brother Robert,

    Steve Harvey is not the problem here!

    If anything, Steve has had a false conversion and a false witness to CHRIST. I agree with you that Steve is coming in the name of another Jesus, but not our JESUS! This is obvious…

    Who gave Steve Harvey this platform to begin with? It was the Pimps! Steve is being pimped and he doesn’t even know it! Pimps, compromisers and enablers like TBN, Jakes, McClurkin, Pretty Paula as Brother Speaking Truth calls her(LOL), and others of such ilk are the ones where the guilt lies blame. I am not condemning Steve…he was, still is, and will continue to be outside the ark of safety until he TRULY repents and TRULY forsakes sin(not meaning he will fall short because John says we all sin). I feel sorry for Steve because if he were die in that spiritual state…we all know where he will end up for all eternity. Amen.

    But I tell you this with all sincerity, I would not want to be in the shoes of TBN leaders(Paul and Jan Crouch and their sons), Jakes, McClurkin(???), and Pretty Paula and others of such ilk when they face the LORD on Judgement. The old time saints and my spiritual mother is one of them and they have always said, if you compromise on the truth you are going to HELL! How many souls were damaged by this lie, this deception, and THIS is not the FIRST TIME. And I agree with N’Catina…We must consider TBN, The WORD Network, GodTV(BaalTV) to be heretics and apostates! I would categorize TBN as apostates right now. The Word Network is both. And GodTV after the Todd Bently fiasco is a heresy network. PERIOD! I agree N’Catina, until any of these networks show fruits of repentance, we who are called out MUST Stay away from them and definitely not support them with GOD’s precious money!

    Many of us on this board are currently ministers, pastors, elders, deacons or soon to become ministers, pastors, deacons, leaders in the body of CHRIST. We are going to encounter people like Steve Harvey who have a name in the world and the Nobody knows who they are Steves. We can’t compromise no matter who they are in this world. One of the greatest sins in the Body of CHRIST today and I have been guilty of this myself personally is
    SHOWING RESPECT of PERSONS! We have to stand for the TRUTH No matter the price or the cost…even if the price is own our very lives! Amen. To keep your integrity before the LORD can cost you everything. Believe me I have experienced this in my own personal life and ministry. But my GOD has vindicated me everytime! Do you all hear what I am saying?

    Saints of the MOST HIGH GOD, we are living in Modern day Babylon and the hour is coming very, very soon..if it is not already here now as we speak..where we will have to be this generations’ Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and that Abednego.

    Let me tell y’all something and convince me if this was coincidence or if this was a sign from GOD HIMSELF(I know this was a sign from GOD!). In my current line of work, I have a remote access key that allows me to sign in from home or from any secure computer. The access key has a code of 2 sets of numbers 3 digits each for a total of 6 digits. Every 30 seconds a new combination of codes appear. On a particular day in June, the SPIRIT led me to take an late morning break from work. I went to the employee lounge and sat down. Now on most breaks, I NEVER EVER look at the access code numbers unless I am working from home on a planned telework day. But on this particular break, the LORD puts it into my mind to just look at my remote access key. Listen and hear what numbers appear on this remote access key. 666 777. What are the odds of that appearing? We all know what 666 means. 777 is the number symbolizing JESUS CHRIST. Saints we are either in that hour or at the brink…we must prepare ourselves and build ourselves up in the most holy faith! Amen.

    Pastor Foster I did mean to type this long but the HOLY GHOST kicks in and I can’t turn it off. LOL! I am back! I have been recovering from my father’s passing away since Easter and before that helping my sister with his failing health. But praise GOD, he was saved! Thank you all for your prayers and concerns!

  27. At the end of the day TBN should have been a bit more discerning and not put that “babe in Christ” on the show. But, I’ve come to expect anything and everything from TBN.

  28. EW, so glad that your heart is healing from the passing of your dad. Every soldier needs some time to recover.

  29. In response to Jeanie saying that God hasnt convicted Steve Harvey regarding fornication.

    “Harvey went on to state that he knows that the Bible says a person should wait until s/he gets married to have sex and he agrees with that whole-heartedly. But he states that since people are not going to wait until marriage to have sex, they should at least wait for 90 days.

    I believe this portion of the article as to what he stated puts that idea to bed. The Holy spirit corrects according to knowledge.

    As a young Christian, I had no idea that fornication was wrong, but once my friend told me what scripture said I was greatly convicted.

    It is his salvation that needs to be questioned as many have said.

  30. I read the book when it came out and have a .pdf copy of the book if anyone would like to browse. I can’t say I was shocked, but maybe a little disappointed, but Steve Harvey knows the deal. He has been hosting the gospel music awards on BET the last 11yrs, he has seen “church folk” at their worse. And in some of the comments and jokes he has made about the church, I kind of see a cry for help – like show me that God is real, in your lives so I can believe. But only those that start to compromise really get the accolades, so he rarely comes in contact with true believers. I believe Harvey is a Christian, the very representation of what it means today – he was raised in church and went his own way, the truth is in his heart, but he does not have a personal relationship with Christ, as Enoch said – false convert. And that is a big problem with the church today. As Ina said, the old heads are coming back to church and being retaught how to be good tithers/givers, respect the pastor, and are developing their talents in the service of the Lord-dancing, acting, stepping. But no one is being taught how or what it means to draw nigh to HIM.

  31. People of God: Let’s get some matters clear so that we will not
    hesitate when the “viper” or his offspring appear as angels of light. One, Steve Harvey is not born again of the Spirit of God.
    The Word has judged him and he is found wanting. Anytime anyone
    endorses and promotes sin, that person is not born again. Period.
    No discussion or equivocations.
    Two, Paula White is a religious woman who covets worldly goods and worldly recognition. For her to openly and knowingly condone
    and approve of fornication…that should show you volumes of where she is spiritually…in an apostate condition.
    Three, for TBN to even have Steve Harvey on their “program” and to not delete the madness of Harvey and White speaks volumes as to where they are….apostate.
    Personally, I do not know why anyone would tune into to either Harvey or White or TBN. All apostates. They can not nourish you
    or promote orthodox gospel. Why? They are apostates. Flee them and quit thinking that they will change.
    Harvey thinks he is real cute trying to walk a line between the
    “church” and the world. He can not do it. He is lukewarm and God spews him out of his mouth. Harvey is in for the bucks and the
    applause of man. Paula White is in it for the bucks and the applause of man. TBN is in it for the bucks and the applause of man. What is there not to understand?
    They are merchandisers of the Body of Christ. They spew forth
    nonsense and call it Bible. They do not discern the Body of Christ and they lead other gullible souls into perdition.
    Just like you would not pick up a rattle snake when it rattles, why does anyone pick up Steve Harvey or Paula White or TBN or
    Jakes or Creflo or Copeland or Hickey or Hinn or Osteen or Murdock and a host of others?
    They are constantly rattling but yet Christians still go to them
    and are bitten and then they wonder why they are lukewarm about
    sin and the things of the Kingdom! Why? You have been bitten by
    the snake…he rattled but you thought you could outfox him.
    Wrong. Even MIchael the archangel did not fight with Satan!
    When you see so called celebrity Christians endorsing sin and
    telling others that sin is OK…you need to hear the rattle and
    move out of the way.Don’t idle around thinking it is harmless entertainment. White, Harvey and TBN offer no light.
    God is not mocked.

  32. Just to clarify, I did not mean to imply that God had not convicted Steve Harvey about fornication, but that Steve Harvey has chosen not to be convicted by it. It’s a no brainer if one chooses to see, it is very obvious what the Bible has to say about it. May his eyes be open to the truth!

  33. Doesn’t the word say, “we are complete in Him.” Harvey is always saying that God is not finished with me yet. Well Jesus completed everything so we have to walk in Christ and stop blaming God for our sins. What he constantly says is putting Jesus to an open shame like Jesus hasn’t completed us already. That’s why he still uses foul language and constantly excuses it with God is not through with me yet. Sounds like Harvey is not working on trying to quit himself cause Christ has already finished it. We are to be perfect as our Father is perfect anything else is a not important. He just like Monique is a Christian in name only cause no amount of works is going to get you into heaven. Monique tells people to keep cussing and talks about Jesus with the same mouth. She and Steve are two sly foxes and Paula White is a mannequin with a speaking mouth and I’m not saying this as a joke.

  34. Hall of Shame for Celebrity Christians/CINO(Christian in name only) who had been allowed to have a platform within Christianity most recent & notable:

    R Kelley(Check out the article from Extimes link below, Kelley does a song with Ludacris mocking the gifts of the Spirit).

    TBN had Jermaine Jackson from the Jackson 5 years ago, but now he is a Muslim.

    Bob Dylan

    Harvey should take a page from Denise Matthews formerly known as Vanity. She is a prime example of being truly converted into the newness of life. Matthews got sure enough Saved, and was disciple for at least three or more years before going out to do ministry. She died out to being Vanity the sex symbol to being a new creation in Christ, and repented of her sins. Now she is a Evangelist for the Kingdom of God.

    It is carnal to think a celebrity will draw a crowd. It may draw crowd to a church. But would it draw a sinners heart to repent? Absolutely not. Jesus said if He would be lifted up He would draw all men. The Lord is more worried about true conversion, that a man heart turn from sin, not continue to practice sin.

  35. I just came across this site,so I’m not familiar with protocal, but anyway Steve Harvey was just telling it “like it is.” I’m not CINO or whatever the acronym is, but I know plenty of people who are church-going christians who talk church when they’re with church people and are the biggest fornicators you would want to come in contact with. Ya’ll spend time with them and would think they are “shining the light,” — NOT! I’m not here to judge, but I call it like I see it.

    Many people are playing the christian card, let’s get real people, live your life the way you want to, but don’t act as if the Bible is being followed to the letter. Wrong is wrong and right is right. I see there are plenty who are CINO.

  36. Diamond,

    you’re correct: right is right and wrong is wrong. Steve Harvey was WRONG when he suggested people wait 90 days after meeting someone to sleep with them. Sex before marriage is WRONG. Its a sin, period. And it doesn’t matter how long you wait. And I don’t care if he was telling it “like it is,” (your words, not mine). He essentially told the audience how to sin the correct way. Now that’s WRONG. And you’re WRONG when you wrote, “live the way you want to.” What kind of foolishness is that?

    And you’re completely off topic when you wrote, “don’t act as if the Bible is being followed to the letter.” That wasn’t even the purpose of the article and I don’t think anyone reading this article thought that! I think you need to go back and read it again. And when you do, make a sensible comment.

    To shofasound, its an excellent article and I enjoy all of your writings. Keep up the good work and keep on exposing the truth!

  37. As far as they are concerned, there is no separation. God is holy. When the world tells the church how to behave and we become foolish and stupid enough to accept it then darkness is in the heart. How soon many of us forget that in the book of Revelation, Two churches were rebuked by the Lord for the doctrine of Balaam, the doctrine of the Nicolatians, and the doctrine of Jezebel being blatantly taught and practiced in the church.

    What was the end result. Ephesus, Thyatira and Pergamos. The candle stick was removed. TBN is not a church but it is supporting a compromise gospel. Why? The love of money is the root of all sorts of evil.

    Their “Praise-a-thon” is a joke. For Steve Harvey, trying to be a slick tongued false teacher, you need to walk away. He is preaching a false doctrine that points the finger at God and tells God that He don’t understand. Quite the contrary. Because man has a casket or urn prepared, you know what’s next? The judgment!

    So for all you “standard failure” followers that claim to be sympathetic to carnal Christians, just because people fail God’s standard, it doesn’t mean that God nor His standard has failed. God made it so easy for us. He condensed over 1500 OT laws into the power of the new birth.

    Go made it easy for us through the Son, yet we still make holiness a mountain out of a mole hill. Get it together! KYB! Know Your Bible!

  38. For those of you that may be interested, please click my name, it will lead to our church website. We are on BlogTalkRadio. There is a groundbreaking series called “Secret Sexual Sins.” There are several messages regarding Why Pastors Fall, Jezebel, How To Protect Yourself From A Pastor’s Sexual Advances, and many more messages geared toward achieving freedom from sexual addiction and sexual purity.

    The church is in the plains of Moab and we are overrun with sexual immorality in the church. MOAB is The Mother Of All Battles. Sexual immorality in the church. Goliath has defied the armies of shelving God long enough. It is time for David (the pastors) to go to the brook and get five (grace) smooth stones and sink one of them in the giant called Goliath (sexual immorality) and cut his head off.

    Ephesians 5:26-27 says, “that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, without spot or wrinkle, but that she should be holy and without blemish.”

  39. brethren, Lest not your hearts be troubled over the Steve Harvey’s comment and the fact that Paula did not correct him. For those things have to happen so the outer world can see who really belongs to God.
    Besides, the proverb says: ” Birds same feathers flock together”. How in the world would you expect a different reaction from Paula.
    Those of us who believe in the word of God and who commit ourselves to stand for the truth, all we can do is pray for the distractors to repent while we continue to tell and teach people about the message of the cross. Jesus is our sublime just Judge; let’s let Him take care of those profanities and let’s continue to trust in Him without being distracted by the devil’s plan; for satan uses those things to get our focus off God.

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