GCM causing more church splits

CENTERVILLE, OH – Whenever the false teachers of the gay christian movement raise their ugly doctrine of inclusion, church splits are inevitable because false teachers destroy fellowship.

That’s currently happening at one Dayton area church where homosexual activists in religious blackface are pushing their so-called “committed relationships” wedge issue. From the Dayton Daily News:

More than church policy on gay clergy is dividing one of the Miami Valley’s largest congregations.

The 3,000 members of Epiphany Lutheran Church have until 4 p.m. today to respond to an informal “straw poll,” asking them whether they would agree to an amicable separation of the congregation, related to church policy allowing gays and lesbians in committed relationships to serve as ministers.

A Nov. 2 letter from the church’s Congregational Council stated that many issues, including differing opinions among members concerning the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America’s social statement, were behind the proposed split.

But church members say this issue is just the latest, most visible disagreement within the membership.

“In my opinion, we have a militant wing of the congregation that is conservative, and then we have a group that is more about outreach,” said Rob Miller, 41, who has been at Epiphany since 2003. “And that militant group has seized on this declaration of sexuality.”

Senior Pastor John Bradosky sent an accompanying letter on Nov. 2 explaining how the division has affected Epiphany’s finances, attendance and future. He said an attempt at unity with an “agree to disagree” resolution in February regarding the statement had backfired.

The works of the flesh are manifest (clearly seen) it reads in Galatians 5.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Notice that such excesses WILL NOT inherit or enter the kingdom of God. We know that these spiritual vices do not operate independently of humans so it is to be understood that no one who embraces, practices and engages in these sins will enter God’s kingdom.

What is it about “will not inherit” do these gay christians and their blind supporters not understand?

Consenting to any form of sexual immorality as good indicates that a church has lost its way biblically.  Homosexuality cannot be justified in any context and the gay christians know this. That’s why you see them attach  “respectable” qualifiers  “committed relationships” on to their sins.  A committed relationship is morally neutral and it enables them to sound respectable while engaging in act God has called abominable. A good test would be apply the same to pedophiles and animal sex fetishes. If those pass the test, then homosexuality can be acceptable as well.

The other aspect to this issue within the churches is the sanctification of fornication pushed by homosexual activists. Fornication is sexual activity between two unmarried people. Since homosexual can never achieve a legitimate marriage in the eyes of God, they have turned to man via the courts to sanctify their immorality. Of course they need the apostate church to side with them and make it “right” religiously.

ht: Lamar

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9 thoughts on “GCM causing more church splits

  1. Brother……

    Please understand that I am a sinner saved by grace. Secondly, please believe me when I write that my wife and I faithfully tithe toward The Lord’s will. We obey our God with both money and actions.

    On that note, I would like you to seek The Lord most fervently, regarding the matter of homosexuality. There was a time when “Good Christians” didn’t permit interracial worship or marriage, much less same-sex marriage.

    Is it possible that anti-gay Christians are the modern day equivelent of that?

    -Matt Goodearl
    Roseville, Ca

  2. The average Male homosexual has over 400 partners in a lifetime.
    The average gay marraige last 12 months! These stats are from Scandanavia where gay marraige has been legal for years. Do you think America’s gay community is any more committed? I have a friend who is gay who is in a committed relationship if you ask him…with another friend…and each go out and have SEX with as many men as they can find. In bars, in gas station bathrooms, under bridges in dept store bathrooms using the large bag on the floor trick in the stall. But to them they are a committed couple. They have lived together for years. They are not like heterosexual couples. Not that all hetero’s are monogamous. But it is like comparing an Mountain to a molehill.
    If you want to see a side of the gay community you will never hear about in the “gays are just like us” churches google Folsom Street Festival photos. Try this site: http://americansfortruth.com/issues/public-sex-in-your-neighborhood/page/2
    You will see open acts of every sexual act known to man…in the open on a main public street. (like Genesis 6 the Angels and Lot in Sodom) Beware if you are offended by such acts. But you may want to look to see what at least part of the gay community is like.

  3. To answer your question Matt: NO

    Your silly argument is an attempt to leverage the ideology of man against God’s eternal truths. Wont work and I dont need to “seek the Lord fervently” when he has already spoken with unmistakable clarity about homosexuality.

    Next strawman please.

  4. To answer your question Matt: NO

    Your silly argument is an attempt to leverage the ideology of man against God’s eternal truths. Wont work and I dont need to “seek the Lord fervently” when he has already spoken with unmistakable clarity about homosexuality.

    Next strawman please.

    Wow, you have just shown me the insensitive nature of the flesh. I used to look at this sight with faithfulness, but your answer to such a soft comment, just blows me away, and shows that your flesh and stubbornness are too strong and full of a “Pharisee” attitude. You called Matt’s argument “silly”, and he was not even arguing with you. He makes a good point. we need to ALWAYS “seek the Lord fervently” in all we do, no matter how certain we are of the “truth”. There has been so many people hurt in/by the church. And even if we are right about homosexuality being wrong, let’s do it in love.

    What is it about “will not inherit” do these gay christians and their blind supporters not understand?

    Also, your comment, can you see people’s hearts?? No one can but the Lord, it is not your position to judge who will and who will not inherit.

    You perhaps do need to come to the Lord again and ask for a renewed love, a child like faith again. But, perhaps I am wrong! but, i do know this, my flesh is still strong, but I am trying hard every day to keep my eyes on Christ!! He is the author and finisher of everything!!

  5. Seeker thanks for “looking at this sight with faithfulness”. However your interpretation of my words are incorrect.
    An argument in the context I used it is just another way of saying “your point” or “your hypothesis”.
    Secondly, what you saw was a repudiation of a lie. Satan is the father of a lie and I have zero tolerance for it. Matt attempted to couch it in love and prop it up with religious platitudes, but its still a lie.

    Unless you want to be decevied and caught up in this mess they are serving people, you’d do well to know a lie when it is being presented with a spoonful of honey.

    Why should we seek God when he has (1) already spoken clearly on homosexuality (2) declared that the word he has spoken clearly will not change and (3) Matt offered no evidence to the contrary.

    Here again is Matt’s argument:
    “There was a time when “Good Christians” didn’t permit interracial worship or marriage, much less same-sex marriage. Is it possible that anti-gay Christians are the modern day equivelent of that?”

    No, there is no possibility that homosexual marriage is equal to race. Secondly, his use of the punitive term “antigay” indicates he is no brother but one seeking to sow doubt about God’s moral standards. His “good Christians” in quotes is an indicator that he has already come to a conclusion that our repudiation of homosexuality per the scriptures is somehow akin to interracial racism of yesteryear.

    To that silliness I can only offer rebuke.

    Also Im not sure why after reading this site “with faithfulness” you would consider Matt’s position even remotely true or legitimate. I notice also that you havent been reading your own bible as you err on the judgment issue. I would suggest would read 1 Cor 5. We dont need to ask God to clarify something he has already spoken clearly on AND declared that it will not change.

    You seem to object to my comments because you feel they were not done “in love”. I assure you that love rebukes sharply when a lie is presented. To tolerate such things is inherently unloving as they could lead unsuspecting people into hell.

  6. @Gcmwatch-say it sir! Allow me to use my 17 month old daughter is this discussion as well. When I tell her not to do something I make sure she understands that daddy is not playing. If I ask her if she did what I told her not to do and she lies to mem, I don’t respond with a open hug and kisses and bending of what I originally told her, to keep her out of trouble. I reiterate the truth to her with all power and justice. And I love her beyond words.

    @Seeker-gcmwatch’s rebuke of Matt and you was right and it possessed every possible ounce of love in it. We have God’s word and His name is Jesus. He is absolute truth and we will not stand for any of satan’s stupid, erroneous, sugar coating, crap.

    We will not give in to a lie like eve did. She was tricked by a subtle enemy and look how much it cost humanity. Love is not accepting mess, love is flushing the toilet when “mess” is in it.

    You said: “But, perhaps I am wrong!” That statement is only applicable if you don’t read your bible. Go get it, dust it off, and read it.

  7. Matt said: “There was a time when “Good Christians” didn’t permit interracial worship or marriage, much less same-sex marriage. Is it possible that anti-gay Christians are the modern day equivelent of that?”

    That is a lie from the pits of Hell. I will stand and argue that the True Bride of Christ has Never restricted interracial marriages because its in direct violation to Scripture. All those who accept and Follow Christ are heirs to the Throne, no matter what your skin pigment is. Prove it otherwise, with the Bible.

  8. I have only response I would like to address, because it deeply hurt me. Your implication that i “need to dust off my Bible and read it.” I don’t mean to brag or be arrogant, but the one thing i have been faithful with for the past 18 years or so, is reading the Bible daily. And when I approach the Word of God, I come with my hands wide open, and my heart laid out to the LORD. It is amazing that how many times I have read it cover to cover, there is always something new, which is why I have to keep presenting my “concepts” and such anew to the LORD every time. Isn’t that amazing?? Our God is so wonderful like that!!

    I regret making any comment on this site at all, as just as this article is titled “GCM causing more church splits”. We are the church, says the LORD, yet the comments on this article are splitting us up even more, just look at these comments we have given each other. For that, I repent, and lay myself again at the foot of the cross. May we all become less and less as Christ becomes more in us!!

  9. @Seeker-People don’t cause division, doctrine causes division….

    I made that comment towards you, because of the statements you made. You clearly tried to get us to have a tolerant attitude towards satan and his lies and gcmwatch told we wouldn’t. He then suggested you hadn’t read your bible because you condemned him as “judging” brother matt. You claim faithfulness in bible reading for 18 years yet your comments show otherwise….

    Reading and learning are two different things. Cover to cover reading does nothing if understanding isn’t there. Your comments tell on you.

    In love I speak this to you ❤

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