Spiritual health advisory: AME pastor spreads deadly spiritual virus

Its our urgent duty to inform you that Dr. Teresa Brown, the assistant pastor at New Bethel AME church in Lithonia, GA is spreading a deadly disease called SIV.  The Spiritual Immunodeficiency Virus is a highly infectious spiritual disease which disables an individual’s ability to know truth and defend themselves against false teachings. The consequence is those who are infected, infect others and can kill the spirit. SIV is an equal opportunity killer and those who do not embrace God’s truth are at high risk.

Brown, also a professor at the Chandler School of Theology, told NBC’s progay, African American flavored newsblog The Grio multiple lies and distortions about homosexuality, the bible and the church [source].

The article itself attempts to do in the “black church” what political homosexual activists have done in the military with the Dont Ask, Dont Tell policy. As we have told you before, the church activists have the same agenda as the political activists. Tear down any and all barriers to homosexuals gaining unrestricted access to positions of power within the church.

Long before Clinton’s time, the same issue was alive and well within the black church, said Dr. Teresa Fry Brown, professor of Homiletics and director of Black Church Studies at the Candler School of Theology in Atlanta, GA. And it began not long after integration.

Prior to integration, during, say, the Harlem Renaissance, a person’s sexual identity was not an issue, Fry Brown said.

“That was what you did and who you were,” she said. “But the more we identified with other cultures, the more we would step on one another. We became so mind-alteringly obsessed with others’ sexuality. It made us turn on one another.”

At one time, the black church was the home of unity, love, and acceptance. It was the black church that served as the home of the civil rights movement. It was the black church that helped strengthen the black community. But then the obsession with sexuality made its way into the church — thanks to the influence of some conservative capital.

Who a person slept with and how they lived became a cause of critique — that is, except when it came to the choir director or minister of music, in many cases.

Cultural Lies

Dr. Brown’s first set of lies center on the revisioning of a historical/cultural period.  Considering Brown has multiple educational degrees, its rather disconcerting to see comments devoid of any evidence to support her wild claims.

First, Brown attempts to make the church and the Harlem Renaissance one and the same. They are not and if history is correct, the Harlem Renaissance occurred within the confines of a small area of New York and ended abruptly with the onset of the Great Depression. A person’s sexuality may not have mattered in the Cotton Club and to the “new negro” elites that rose to prominence during the decade, but there is zero evidence that one’s sexuality “wasnt an issue” in the church.

In fact back in March, GCM Watch published a story showing  Brown’s claim to be false. In November 1929, prominent Harlem minister Rev. Adam Clayton Powell Sr. published a series of sermons on sexual perversion. Powell said sexual perversion was steadily increasing in large American cities, particularly among women and ministers.  Powell, whose church which was a landmark  institution in Harlem, had seen the effects of homosexuality during  the HR era and knew that if the church was to survive, someone had to combat it.

What’s more, if black folk were so “obsessed” with other black folk’s sexuality, how can  Brown claim in the same thought group that a person’s sexuality didn’t matter to anyone else? It can’t be both.

Brown uses the same illogical argument the deceased John Boswell promoted in his book Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality. Boswell argued that  homosexuality was always accepted and celebrated within the church. That is until mysterious outsiders changed everything. That’s not only historically inaccurate, but shocking coming from a teaching theologian in an institution of higher learning. Read Greco-Roman history as well as the background of Paul’s letters to Corinth and Rome to get your bearings.

Church lies

While the church version of DADT is in full effect in some predominately African American churches, the same is true of its counterparts with other predominately racial makeups. Its part of a biblically unacceptable undercurrent of sin in the church that will eventually collide with the judgment of God.

Growing up with a mother who was a choir director in Kansas City, Fry Brown said the main critiques of the choir director were that he, or she, was either sleeping with all the women in the church (if they were a man), or was gay or living with their mother.  No one talked about the sexual identity of the choir directors then, but everyone knew about them. Labels like, “He’s special” or “She’s special” were always placed upon the director. But that was as far as it went.

Why?

“It is because of the importance of their role in the worship experience,” Collins said of choir directors. “It is because of the pure benefit that these men and women bring to the church. They are creative; gifted, and I dare to say…anointed at the highest level. They add to the religious experience. And when done with excellence, as many of these folk are capable of achieving, the church experience comes alive.”

“Showstoppers” is how Philip David Hill, minister of music of the Victory Church [article does not identify this church as a progay with a homosexual leaning pastor] in Stone Mountain, GA, describes many choir directors in the black church.

“It seems as though the most talented singers in the church, the most talented musicians in the church just happen to be gay,” he said. “I don’t know why that is. People go where they are most talented. It just is what it is.”

Hill said it is not a matter of trying to hide the fact that these individuals are gay. It just is not talked about.
But is it okay that their sexual identity not be addressed?
Fry Brown considers it an issue of integrity on the part of the pastor. She calls it a form of dehumanization. When she was entering ministry, she was told she could be a minister, but as a woman, could not cry because crying was seen as a sign of weakness. It was like asking her to not be who she was.

The same is being asked of individuals who are asked to hide their sexuality, she said.

Brown is joined by another apostate teacher who repeats the very questionable claim. He says “the most talented musicians in the church just happen to be gay”.  According to what survey? What statistics  bear out this out? Who determines what constitutes “the most talented”? And since when does “talent” become criteria for right relationship with God? Hill admits he has no factual evidence to back it up his assertions, but in the same breath passes it off as if it was written in stone.

One of the issues the church hasn’t resolved and probably never will is that it has allowed the worship of music to eclipse the worship of God and devotion to his Word. That’s why churches easily fall into the trap where they can be at the mercy of homosexual musicians et al. Churches that do put music and Word in proper priority don’t have the problem of  asking homosexuals to “hide their sexuality”.

Emotional lies

False teachers like Brown capitalize on the emotional brokenness of homosexuals. They stroke the flames of isolation, alienation and hatred of the truth by telling homosexuals they are being “discriminated” against by the church. But this is another odd irony. How can homosexuals (according to Brown and Hill) command the top positions, lead the top choirs, be hailed as the most talented, and at the same time be discriminated against?

“You want them to lead your choirs, entertain you every Sunday, but they have to hold back a portion of who they are,” Fry Brown said. “As long as you are making money for the church, they don’t care what you do as long as you don’t self identify.”

So why do the choir directors and/or ministers of music do it? Not necessarily for the money and their livelihood, but because alienation outweighs accountability, Fry Brown said.

“Love is one of our basic human needs; it is critical,” she said. “It is at the core of our humanity. When there’s a threat that love will be withheld, then we will be who we have to be to keep from losing that love.”

And while it is an issue that needs to be dealt with, it is not safe to say that this goes on in every black church, said Fry Brown. Geography and denomination are major factors in whether or not a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy is present.

But the bible does discriminate, separate and judge! That’s why Brown is a false teacher sick with SIV and no better than the people she accuses of taking advantage of homosexuals in church. False teachers dont teach the truth, they teach a socialized, political version of the bible.

How does the AME Church allow someone like an assistant pastor to make such anti-bible statements with no consequences?  Brown should be quarantined from preaching by her denomination until she is healed of SIV.

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15 thoughts on “Spiritual health advisory: AME pastor spreads deadly spiritual virus

  1. Hmmm … I think that this “black church” thing has run its course. Today, 2/3rds of Christians are nonwhite and/or live in the “two-thirds world” (outside the west), and that percentage is increasing. Christians should start associating with each other based on belief, practice and conviction (orthodoxy, orthopraxy and living faith), not race, class or culture. Continuing in these old wineskins only leads to error. (Yes, I feel the same way about white Christians who continue to segregate themselves from nonwhite Christians also).

  2. A most repugnant lie–equating the acceptance of homosexuality in the Church to the Civil Rights movement..

  3. @Joe-ok did you even read the lies this heretic is spreading? Do you know what happens to a person who believes false teaching? Do you care at all? Or is your focus (like most of the church) on being nice and politically correct?

  4. Job I agree 100 percent….and I think as times get more difficult and dangerous for us Christians in North America, you will start seeing more and more of the body joining together across racial and cultural and class lines…….and that is the way it should be!!

  5. Just a question. What good is racial harmony when a spiritual disease is infecting everybody. And to be honest we wont achieve racial harmony or racial unity in the church as long as there is sin. And while I dont want this post to turn into a sidebar on race, personally I dont see anything wrong with people congregating with others who are predominately like them as long as they do not despise another ethnicity. This happened with the Jews and Gentiles and there was no instruction from the apostolic council of Acts 14 to make efforts to merge the two.

  6. This is a question for pastor foster, my pastor and I were wondering if you have written any books or material on, ministering to the homosexual or the deliverence from the homosexual life style… Because I believe a lot of people would love to help others get out of this lifestyle but they just dont know how, or where to start…

  7. Kay thank you for that question. I have written one book, but it is more semiautobiographical than instructional for ministry. I am working on a couple of books one of which will address those very concerns. Meanwhile, you can reference my website which has a wealth of material there. In additional, any specific questions you have can be addressed to me at gcmwatch@yahoo.com

  8. Pastor Foster:

    Well, Paul in the epistle to the Romans urged the Jews and Gentiles to worship together despite their differences. I know that there won’t be perfect unity because there is sin, but separating for the wrong reason isn’t the solution for sin. After all, the Jews and Gentiles did not heed Paul’s instructions (and the balance of the blame for this went to the Gentiles), and the result is that less than 300 years later they were praying to angels and dead people, running off to the desert to be monastics, and doing all sorts of other nonsense.

    I am just trying to broaden the issue a bit to put homosexual theology in a kind of a context in terms of wider, deeper trends that are going on. Oh, how can I put this … well I am just going to have to come out and state it the only way that I know how, because I have never been one known for sophistication, for better or worse. Regarding “the black church”, the idea that the homosexual agenda = the civil rights agenda didn’t just come up out of nowhere. Instead, it is the result of a lot of unsound thinking, unsound theology, that has been taking root and growing in a lot of churches and seminaries for a long time. In that respect, it is no different from the unsound thinking that southern Christians began to pass around and ultimately embraced in order to justify the brutal mistreatment of slaves. (For example, one of the leading Baptist critics of slavery made a 180% turn and became one of its most prominent defenders when and because he inherited his father’s slaves and became a slaveowner himself).

    So, if there are deep issues in the culture or subculture that causes things like this to be accepted in the first place, we should consider that the appropriate thing to do is to leave the subculture, because the problems in the subculture (pervasive bad theology and practice that goes unchallenged by the subculture’s leaders) have become bigger issues than the ones that justified the creation of the subculture in the first place (segregation and racism). And there is precedent for this. The northern Baptists separated from the southern Baptists over the issue of slavery. So, the fact that there doesn’t SEEM to be any major black denomination or “prominent” black Christian leader standing up to oppose homosexual theology as a black issue in and for the black church the way that they will for discrimination, jobs, education, housing, police brutality etc. in a New York minute, it really makes one wonder A) the true purpose and reason for the continued existence of the institution, and B) whether the answer to A) justifies separating from this institution in the same manner – and for the same reason – that the anti-slavery Baptists did.

    I am merely proposing that because so many people like this are able to embrace and spread homosexual theology in the black church with no organized or visible opposition from black Christian leaders means that it is time to take the position that when a man is looking for a church for himself and his family, the racial makeup of the church should be the last factor considered, if it is to be considered at all. Again, if this woman were teaching that blacks should reject civil rights laws and accept second-class status in American society because we are the cursed descendants of Ham (or some other nonsense like that), she’d have PLENTY of VIGOROUS and VOCAL opposition from the black Christian leadership. But by preaching this, she suffers NONE WHATSOEVER. That’s the sort of thing that I am talking about.

    Granted, plenty of heresy abounds in white churches also. The difference is that at least in the modern context and in theological terms, the reason for these churches being “white” has nothing to do with race. So, it is much harder to propose that heresies in (most modern) white churches have a racial element, or can be viewed in racial terms. But with the black church, the same is not so. Black churches exist entirely for racial reasons, i.e. being part of “black culture/black tradition/the black experience”, a culture/tradition/experience that incidentally the civil rights movement is an integral part of. So, when someone comes along peddling the idea that some heresy or some abominable practice is “part of the black experience”, then what is the justification for a church that only exists because it is “part of the black experience” for rejecting it? Even if it can be stated that it is a lie (as can this woman’s utterly false and easily disproven claim that homosexuality was accepted before integration and so forth), what happens when it is true?

    So again, when a man is looking for a church for himself and his family, the racial makeup of the church should be the last factor considered, if it is to be considered at all. And yes, this should be the case for blacks and whites. It may get a lot of us out of our comfort zones, but maybe our “getting too comfortable” is part of the problem. Maybe the fight against racism and the other sins that keep us divided are going to be part of the fight for the faith in the future. And as devon hinted above, persecution may wind up driving us together in the future. You are aware that the Southern Poverty Law Center has now started classifying organizations as “hate groups” because of their opposition to homosexuality.

    Let me give you another aside here. Go to the website of the National Baptist Convention (the largest black denomination in America) and see their “statement of beliefs” page. On one hand, it looks orthodox enough. But why at the top of the page is this graphic containing the star of David, the Islamic crescent moon, the Buddhism symbol, and all of these other demonic false religions?
    http://nationalbaptist.com/index.php?nid=144039&s=au
    Again, that is just something else that makes me think that the refusal of black Christian leaders to effectively oppose creeping homosexual theology is merely a symptom of a much larger problem. And I admit … it isn’t limited to black churches. A lot of white evangelical and fundamentalist leaders aren’t visibly opposing the homosexual agenda either. The religious right, for instance? Stick a fork in them … they’re done. The way that so many “socially conservative Christians” just fell in line with the Tea Party nonsense was an eye-opener: it showed that they were always about from the beginning, and also shows why they never abandoned the GOP despite all those pro-gay, pro-abortion judges that Reagan, Bush and the rest put on the Supreme Court.

    Any way you slice it, the time is coming where all of our energies are going to have to be dedicated towards finding as many born again Christians as we can to fellowship with, no matter who they are. They are going to have to come to us, we are going to have to go to them, and we are all going to have to meet each other halfway.

  9. The black church is far more than a Christian organization; it is a social, spiritual, political and economic institution that supports the black community. When race is no longer an issue, then you can make the claim that Christians should all be as one; until then try to understand what the black church really is and where it originated and why it is such a strong force in the African American community.

  10. House of prayer or den of thieves? The den speaks of a place where thieves hide. It is often the place where thieves sleep among the dead. Has the church become a place of the dead? We do not have to look far. Where sin is unchecked and unconfessed, sin is unconquered. Where sin is unconquered, the devil reigns. Doctrines of devils and seducing spirits is the word that is preached in places where social acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle exists unimpeded. Prayer cannot exist without holiness so only one person is hearing their prayers. satan! And their prayers are being answered but there is another prayer meeting going on where God is not about to, but is already bringing judgment in places. Here this well. Where holiness is not the hallmark of a local church, mega or otherwise, then you will see a shaking of things that cannot remain. When you see this, know that you better be on the right side of God, than the judgment side of God.

  11. Not only is this woman a false teacher and a liar, but she shouldn’t be preaching anyways she is in violation of scripture:

    1 Timothy 3:1-7 (King James Version)

    1 Timothy 3
    1This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

    2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

    3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

    4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

    5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

  12. To Michelle who said “The black church is far more than a Christian organization; it is a social, spiritual, political and economic institution that supports the black community. When race is no longer an issue, then you can make the claim that Christians should all be as one; until then try to understand what the black church really is and where it originated and why it is such a strong force in the African American community.”

    I respectively disagree with your statement, when an individual comes to true faith in Christ that person is a new creation old things have passed away and behold all things have become new. In other words, that person is now part of a race that never existed before the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the firstborn from the dead. That person becomes part of a “Holy Nation” they have become grafted into the body of Christ, where not jew, nor greek nor gentile exists. The problem is when a person holds on to their ethnicity and promotes that above their new life in Christ that we end up with groups calling themselves the “Black Church” or put anyother name in front the “? Church. That’s why our local churches are so segregated on Sunday morning. It was Jesus who said by our love we would be known as christians, our love for one another, not our own individual races or ethnic cultures but regardless of our cultures and backgrounds when we can fellowship, worship, minister together as the body of Christ, when the world sees that, that’s an indicator of true christianity. That was Jesus prayer to the Father, “Make them one as we are one”

    When you become born again that’s the point when race is no longer an issue, it starts there individually.

  13. @ Tina, I couldn’t agree more. As long as the issues attacking Christs body are addressed from a carnal perspective true power can not come forth to deal with the issues. The homosexual agenda is progressing in the body of Christ. True believers need to come together in unity and speak in truth. The “Black Church” has many flaws and curses that have plagued it as has the “White Church” . So lets put all that down and be Christs Church with Jesus as our head and all other theories and methods set aside. Walk in the power that is promised to the followers of Christ as we walk in unity and stand against the gates and traps that have been set up to kill and destroy the children of God. As long as we subscribe to the thought that seperation is ok and that spiritual issues have to be looked at from carnal aspects(race is a fleshly attribute) we will not effectively take down the lies of the enemy regarding the Kingdom of God. I’m sorry but my race is Christian and I do not care how the world looks at me I am not under the authority of this world. I am a Kingdom citizen. Spiritual issues must be dealt with spiritually and you can not have 2 masters the “Black agenda or Christs agenda”.

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